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Re: Rankings for 2021-22

Postby Fieldhouse Flyer » Wed Nov 17, 2021 7:42 am

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SENSITIVITY STUDY - PART 2: Gavitt Games - Day 2

Kenpom Rankings – Ken Pomeroy – Games through Monday November 15, 2021
2. Michigan (#1 in Big 10)
4. Purdue (#2 in Big 10)
5. Illinois (#3 in Big 10)
8. Villanova (#1 in Big East)
18. Ohio St. (#4 in Big 10)
20. Iowa (#5 in Big 10)
21. UConn (#2 in Big East)
25. Maryland (#6 in Big 10)

26. Michigan St. (#7 in Big 10)
35. Seton Hall (#3 in Big East)
36. Indiana (#8 in Big 10)
37. Xavier (#4 in Big East)
42. Northwestern (#9 in Big 10)
45. Wisconsin (#10 in Big 10)
47. St. John's (#5 in Big East)

64. Butler (#6 in Big East)
66. Creighton (#7 in Big East)
69. Providence (#8 in Big East)
72. Rutgers (#11 in Big 10)
81. Penn St. (#12 in Big 10)
88. Marquette (#9 in Big East)
89. Nebraska (#13 in Big 10)
90. Georgetown (#10 in Big East)

104. Minnesota (#14 in Big 10)
128. DePaul (#11 in Big East)
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Tuesday November 16, 2021 Gavitt Games Scores
Seton Hall 67, Michigan 65
Creighton 77, Nebraska 69

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Kenpom Rankings – Ken Pomeroy – Games through Tuesday November 16, 2021
3. Michigan (#1 in Big 10) ==> DOWN 1 PLACE
4. Purdue (#2 in Big 10)
5. Illinois (#3 in Big 10)
10. Villanova (#1 in Big East)
14. Ohio St. (#4 in Big 10)
21. UConn (#2 in Big East)
23. Iowa (#5 in Big 10)
25. Michigan St. (#6 in Big 10)

26. Maryland (#7 in Big 10)
30. Seton Hall (#3 in Big East) ==> UP 5 PLACES
36. Indiana (#8 in Big 10)
37. Xavier (#4 in Big East)
44. Northwestern (#9 in Big 10)
46. Wisconsin (#10 in Big 10)
47. St. John's (#5 in Big East)

59. Butler (#6 in Big East)
60. Creighton (#7 in Big East) ==> UP 6 PLACES
68. Providence (#8 in Big East)
72. Rutgers (#11 in Big 10)
82. Penn St. (#12 in Big 10)
87. Georgetown (#9 in Big East)
88. Marquette (#10 in Big East)
98. Nebraska (#13 in Big 10) ==> DOWN 9 PLACES

106. Minnesota (#14 in Big 10)
124. DePaul (#11 in Big East)
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Re: Rankings for 2021-22

Postby Hall2012 » Wed Nov 17, 2021 8:11 am

stever20 wrote:
adoraz wrote:
adoraz wrote:Teams with a chance to remain/get ranked next Monday:
#5 Villanova- Vs Howard, Vs #17 Tennessee*, Vs ???*- would definitely remain ranked with 2 Ws
#23 UConn- Vs LIU, Vs Binghamton- would likely remain ranked with 2 Ws

#36 Xavier- Vs #19 Ohio St, Vs Norfolk St- would likely get ranked with 2 Ws
#38 Seton Hall- @ #4 Michigan- would definitely get ranked with 1 W
#41 St. John’s- @ Indiana, Vs Fairleigh Dickinson- would possibly get ranked with 2 Ws
Marquette- Vs #10 Illinois (W), Vs Ole Miss*, Vs ???*, Vs ???*- would definitely get ranked with 4 Ws
Creighton- @ Nebraska, Vs Brown*, Vs ???*- would possibly get ranked with 3 Ws

Providence- no chance
Butler- no chance
DePaul- no chance
Georgetown- no chance

Our best chance for a third team joining the rankings would be if Seton Hall upsets Michigan tonight. Xavier would have a pretty good chance at getting ranked if they win their two games. Seems pretty unlikely that anyone else would join next week.


Aaaannnndddd Hall will now be ranked. Wow. Only question is how high will they be ranked? Currently ranked #38 and just beat #4 on the road. Have to think they'll be top 20 at worst. Maybe top 10.

It'll be interesting to see if UConn can remain. Got 2 unranked teams that will absolutely be ranked now- BYU and Seton Hall. I could see UConn falling out fairly easily if another team or two force their way into the ratings.


I can see Oregon falling out from 12 after that beat down and there's still plenty of time for more ranked teams to lose. I think UConn will be fine as long as they don't lose this week.
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Re: Rankings for 2021-22

Postby stever20 » Wed Nov 17, 2021 8:54 am

This is a week where teams can lose a game and still remain in the top 25 with the exempt tournaments starting up. I'd say what I said about UConn about anyone in that 21-25 range.
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Re: Rankings for 2021-22

Postby adoraz » Wed Nov 17, 2021 10:59 am

Still too early to say for UConn, which is why I said it's "likely" they'd remain ranked. If ultimately they end up #26 due to Hall passing them, that'd be a good thing for the league still.
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Re: Rankings for 2021-22

Postby stever20 » Wed Nov 17, 2021 11:24 am

adoraz wrote:Still too early to say for UConn, which is why I said it's "likely" they'd remain ranked. If ultimately they end up #26 due to Hall passing them, that'd be a good thing for the league still.

yeah and no matter what they are on Monday- it will change in a hurry next week with Atlantis. Auburn, Michigan St/Loyola Chicago, and then one of Syracuse, VCU, Baylor, Arizona St.
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Re: Rankings for 2021-22

Postby Husky_U » Wed Nov 17, 2021 11:36 am

Will probably depend on how many more teams in the high teens/20s lose before the next poll.
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Re: Rankings for 2021-22

Postby stever20 » Wed Nov 17, 2021 12:20 pm

Husky_U wrote:Will probably depend on how many more teams in the high teens/20s lose before the next poll.

also teams just outside. Tonight MIchigan St for instance.
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Re: Rankings for 2021-22

Postby Fieldhouse Flyer » Thu Nov 18, 2021 8:23 am

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SENSITIVITY STUDY - PART 3: Gavitt Games - Day 3

Kenpom Rankings – Ken Pomeroy – Games through Tuesday November 16, 2021
3. Michigan (#1 in Big 10)
4. Purdue (#2 in Big 10)
5. Illinois (#3 in Big 10)
10. Villanova (#1 in Big East)
14. Ohio St. (#4 in Big 10)
21. UConn (#2 in Big East)
23. Iowa (#5 in Big 10)
25. Michigan St. (#6 in Big 10)

26. Maryland (#7 in Big 10)
30. Seton Hall (#3 in Big East)
36. Indiana (#8 in Big 10)
37. Xavier (#4 in Big East)
44. Northwestern (#9 in Big 10)
46. Wisconsin (#10 in Big 10)
47. St. John's (#5 in Big East)

59. Butler (#6 in Big East)
60. Creighton (#7 in Big East)
68. Providence (#8 in Big East)
72. Rutgers (#11 in Big 10)
82. Penn St. (#12 in Big 10)
87. Georgetown (#9 in Big East)
88. Marquette (#10 in Big East)
98. Nebraska (#13 in Big 10)

106. Minnesota (#14 in Big 10)
124. DePaul (#11 in Big East)
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Wednesday November 17, 2021 Gavitt Games Scores
Michigan State 73, Butler 52
Indiana 76, St. John's 74

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Kenpom Rankings – Ken Pomeroy – Games through Wednesday November 17, 2021
3. Michigan (#1 in Big 10)
4. Purdue (#2 in Big 10)
6. Illinois (#3 in Big 10)
10. Villanova (#1 in Big East)
13. Ohio St. (#4 in Big 10)
18. Michigan St. (#5 in Big 10) ==> UP 7 PLACES
20. UConn (#2 in Big East)
24. Iowa (#6 in Big 10)

29. Seton Hall (#3 in Big East)
35. Maryland (#7 in Big 10)
36. Xavier (#4 in Big East)
38. Indiana (#8 in Big 10) ==> DOWN 2 PLACES
43. St. John's (#5 in Big East) ==> UP 4 PLACES
44. Northwestern (#9 in Big 10)
45. Wisconsin (#10 in Big 10)

59. Creighton (#6 in Big East)
67. Providence (#7 in Big East)
71. Butler (#8 in Big East) ==> DOWN 12 PLACES
73. Rutgers (#11 in Big 10)
81. Penn St. (#12 in Big 10)
87. Georgetown (#9 in Big East)
88. Marquette (#10 in Big East)
97. Nebraska (#13 in Big 10)

107. Minnesota (#14 in Big 10)
123. DePaul (#11 in Big East)
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Re: Rankings for 2021-22

Postby Django » Thu Nov 18, 2021 8:31 am

Massey is the closest to NET rankings since NET is still not fully compiling this years data, correct?

According to Massey we jumped B1G and are very close to B12 for #1 conference right now
https://masseyratings.com/cb/ncaa-d1/ratings?c=1
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Re: Rankings for 2021-22

Postby stever20 » Thu Nov 18, 2021 9:00 am

Django wrote:Massey is the closest to NET rankings since NET is still not fully compiling this years data, correct?

According to Massey we jumped B1G and are very close to B12 for #1 conference right now
https://masseyratings.com/cb/ncaa-d1/ratings?c=1


Yeah looks like it's fairly good and really 21-22 season only(some computers still have a lot of last year data used on it). Massey has DePaul at 55 and Georgetown at 89 which right now is pretty fair given the results as of now.
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