DudeAnon wrote:DeltaV wrote:Back to your content, and comments about the Big East:
People say the older era was better because it was deeper. 3 final four teams in '85. 3 #1 seeds in 2009. Syracuse in their prime, UConn, Georgetown, some great West By God Virginia teams, Pitt actually being relevant. Nova peaking as a program at just the right time is wonderful, and I love that Xavier and Seton Hall have made major waves recently (and I love a scrappy Providence team every year making noise as well), but the BIg East always used to have multiple NC contenders every year. Yes, the 2018 Nova team was a buzz saw, and is probably in the top 3 Big East teams ever (and cut the Old vs. New crap, makes you sound like a AACK poster), but we need someone else to make a final four before we can start challenging the 80's.
What would you consider a NC contender? Because as I pointed out earlier, the OBE had some very lean years with regards to Final Four appearances. Does a top 3 seed constitute a NC contender? If so, the four of the 10 NBE programs have contested for a NC in the NBE: Nova, Xavier, Creighton and Seton Hall. I have no problem debating one versus the other, but lets use some numbers instead of your emotions. Lest we forget, the OBE had 16 members. So while you may have had another 1 or 2 relevant teams, you likely had 4-5 more who weren't.
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Django wrote:I think you should keep ranking the cities... best steakhouse, best live music joint, best strip club (pre and post Covid of course)
Django wrote:I think you should keep ranking the cities... best steakhouse, best live music joint, best strip club (pre and post Covid of course)
Hall2012 wrote:I think the old Big East had a much stronger top, at least in terms of consistency - though it also had a much softer bottom. The current Big East has a few had few good seasons from non-Nova teams, but the old Big East had multiple teams that were still top 25 in a "down year."
Xudash wrote:billyjack wrote:This topic gets re-hashed a lot for some reason. Maybe ACC fans at Louisville or Cincinnati or South Florida are trying to sow discord, lol?
In 2014, there were only 2 old Big East teams that i missed having in the Big East--> Syracuse and UConn.
That's all. And UConn is back. I honestly couldn't give two sh-ts about Pitt, BC, Cincinnati, Miami or South Florida. I couldn't care less about Louisville without Pitino. Yeah it was cool having 52 teams in the Big East from 06 to 13.
In contrast, current day, my kids and i look forward to going to every Big East game.
I really like your take. We truly are part of a special conference situation.
Your response got me thinking about the last major restructuring in the Big East prior to us coming together in 2013 (the one where PITT, and Syracuse, in particular, left for the ACC). I cannot imagine what the C7 were going through during that period, when everything the conference pursued was based on the best interests of football programs. I would have been tearing my hair out.
You had a much bigger problem than existed in the A10, which was and remains about very poor management and way too much tolerance for underperforming, non-caring programs. You guys had the exact opposite problem back then - a ton of success in basketball being torn up by football; football was the lightning rod.
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