*Update: SJU's Keith Thomas ineligible

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Re: Westchester CC Violations Affect SJ's Thomas

Postby NJRedman » Tue Oct 28, 2014 3:19 pm

SJHooper wrote:And of course the other SJ fans call me negative but now reports are that Thomas likely won't be with the team. See? It's not me being negative it's me living in reality where SJ has terrible luck. According to SJ law, whenever the team gets great news it must be followed by bad news. There shall never be something purely good to happen to the team.

RIP season. We barely knew ye. Without KT the only way we can still make the tourney is to have our guards have monster years. We will have to be very efficient because we won't be getting those second chances without him. That means smart shot attempts and converting whenever open. We really have no front court after Obekpa. How did this happen again?


You are negative, the season is over because a guy who has never even suited up for us might miss some games? Get a grip. The Daily News says he MIGHT miss some time the NY Post and Zags blog says he wont. You're over sensitive and it's annoying. It's the whining of a child about things he can't control. We have a highly experienced team. Either you believe in our players or you don't, pick a side. I don't feel like going through another season of your bi-polar BS. I'm sure many others here would agree.
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Re: Westchester CC Violations Affect SJ's Thomas

Postby Amase2 » Tue Oct 28, 2014 7:30 pm

NJRedman wrote:
SJHooper wrote:And of course the other SJ fans call me negative but now reports are that Thomas likely won't be with the team. See? It's not me being negative it's me living in reality where SJ has terrible luck. According to SJ law, whenever the team gets great news it must be followed by bad news. There shall never be something purely good to happen to the team.

RIP season. We barely knew ye. Without KT the only way we can still make the tourney is to have our guards have monster years. We will have to be very efficient because we won't be getting those second chances without him. That means smart shot attempts and converting whenever open. We really have no front court after Obekpa. How did this happen again?


You are negative, the season is over because a guy who has never even suited up for us might miss some games? Get a grip. The Daily News says he MIGHT miss some time the NY Post and Zags blog says he wont. You're over sensitive and it's annoying. It's the whining of a child about things he can't control. We have a highly experienced team. Either you believe in our players or you don't, pick a side. I don't feel like going through another season of your bi-polar BS. I'm sure many others here would agree.


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Re: Westchester CC Violations Affect SJ's Thomas

Postby FlyJays » Wed Oct 29, 2014 1:27 pm

Ruled academically ineligible, per SJU release.
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Re: Westchester CC Violations Affect SJ's Thomas

Postby Amase2 » Wed Oct 29, 2014 1:31 pm

Sucks, certainly lowers our ceiling but am still a believer that this is an ncaa team. Dont know where the blame should lie on this one.

Time for my man Christian Jones to prove me right.
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Re: Westchester CC Violations Affect SJ's Thomas

Postby stever20 » Wed Oct 29, 2014 1:46 pm

Where things get interesting for St John's. Right now Ken-Pom's projection is 10-8 19-11(with 1 NIT game not counted). That is square on the bubble. If that was what SJU was going to be with him- and w/o him costs SJU 1 win- that could easily be the difference between NCAA and NIT.

Also keep in mind- 1 of the wins doesn't count- Franklin Pierce.
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Thomas Ineligible

Postby redmen9194 » Wed Oct 29, 2014 1:48 pm

It's official - Keith Thomas not eligible this season.
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Re: *Update: SJU's Keith Thomas ineligible

Postby admin » Wed Oct 29, 2014 1:52 pm

I merged a couple of threads together and updated the title. Sounds like not only is he ineligible, but no longer on scholarship at St. John's. Bad news indeed.
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Re: Westchester CC Violations Affect SJ's Thomas

Postby hoyahooligan » Wed Oct 29, 2014 2:21 pm

stever20 wrote:Where things get interesting for St John's. Right now Ken-Pom's projection is 10-8 19-11(with 1 NIT game not counted). That is square on the bubble. If that was what SJU was going to be with him- and w/o him costs SJU 1 win- that could easily be the difference between NCAA and NIT.

Also keep in mind- 1 of the wins doesn't count- Franklin Pierce.


Except Kenpom's rankings would not have included Thomas in their projection since it doesn't include Juco's or transfers:

"There is no allowance for impact transfers or redshirt freshmen. So if your program has a high-profile transfer joining the team, the system may be underrating it. "
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Re: Westchester CC Violations Affect SJ's Thomas

Postby stever20 » Wed Oct 29, 2014 2:29 pm

hoyahooligan wrote:
stever20 wrote:Where things get interesting for St John's. Right now Ken-Pom's projection is 10-8 19-11(with 1 NIT game not counted). That is square on the bubble. If that was what SJU was going to be with him- and w/o him costs SJU 1 win- that could easily be the difference between NCAA and NIT.

Also keep in mind- 1 of the wins doesn't count- Franklin Pierce.


Except Kenpom's rankings would not have included Thomas in their projection since it doesn't include Juco's or transfers:

"There is no allowance for impact transfers or redshirt freshmen. So if your program has a high-profile transfer joining the team, the system may be underrating it. "

I agree. Just saying if that is a fair projection of where they were(which seems reasonable)- losing 1 more game could be pretty much it. When everyone is so close- 1 game can make a huge difference.
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Re: *Update: SJU's Keith Thomas ineligible

Postby SJHooper » Wed Oct 29, 2014 4:00 pm

Once again I am the realist who was correct and others are left looking stupid with their rose colored glasses. No Thomas this year. It will take a miracle to make the NCAA's. Also hearing that Briscoe is a UK lean now. Bye bye Lavin. I can see a 17 win season coming at best. Program is back in shambles. 8-9 finish next year?
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