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Postby stever20 » Thu Aug 07, 2014 2:21 pm

TheHall wrote:
MUPanther wrote:I would not do it in 2015 and 2016, as the semi finals for college football is on NYE. Or don't have all 10 teams play. Do a game at 11 and another at 1 Ct.

Basketball marathons are here to stay...as well as summer announcements of them.

ESPN announces full Tip-Off Marathon schedule for college hoops season:

There's no better way to kick off the college basketball season than a TV extravaganza of games spanning 24 hours. And, well, there's no better way to get fans excited in August than to announce those games. ESPN unveiled its College Hoops Tip-Off Marathon schedule on Monday, including 12 of USA TODAY Sports' preseason top 25 teams, including the Champions Classic, which pits Michigan State vs. Duke and Kansas vs. Kentucky.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaab/2014/08/04/espns-full-tip-off-marathon-schedule-announced-for-college-hoops-season/13587599/


That's apples to oranges. ESPN has done that marathon for at least 5 years, if not longer...

It's also NOT up against the College Football Semi-finals.....
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Re: 2015 New Year’s TV day for Big East - ProJo

Postby TheHall » Thu Aug 07, 2014 2:52 pm

stever20 wrote:
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MUPanther wrote:I would not do it in 2015 and 2016, as the semi finals for college football is on NYE. Or don't have all 10 teams play. Do a game at 11 and another at 1 Ct.

Basketball marathons are here to stay...as well as summer announcements of them.

ESPN announces full Tip-Off Marathon schedule for college hoops season:

There's no better way to kick off the college basketball season than a TV extravaganza of games spanning 24 hours. And, well, there's no better way to get fans excited in August than to announce those games. ESPN unveiled its College Hoops Tip-Off Marathon schedule on Monday, including 12 of USA TODAY Sports' preseason top 25 teams, including the Champions Classic, which pits Michigan State vs. Duke and Kansas vs. Kentucky.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaab/2014/08/04/espns-full-tip-off-marathon-schedule-announced-for-college-hoops-season/13587599/


That's apples to oranges. ESPN has done that marathon for at least 5 years, if not longer...

It's also NOT up against the College Football Semi-finals.....

So Fox shouldn't try because ESPN has not only done it already but has continued doing it. What sense does that make, anyway I didn't comment on when it should take place just the fact that the season opening marathon concept is here to stay.
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Postby stever20 » Thu Aug 07, 2014 2:58 pm

I have no problem at all with the marathon if it's not on NYE. None. If it's on Dec 30 this year- I really think it's a home run.
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Postby MUPanther » Sat Aug 09, 2014 7:03 pm

ESPN's hoops marathon lands on a Tuesday, the Big East marathon lands on the college football playoff. Huge difference! I'm for FS1 to keep on doing games on NYE. Just two or three.
It will very interesting to see if ESPN2 continues to their hoop marathon on NYE.
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Postby Bluejay » Sun Aug 10, 2014 8:19 am

What I don't think everyone understands is that there is a certain recruiting benefit to a NYE marathon.

It is pretty well documented that we are selling the "you get to be the man on campus because we dont have football." What a better say to show that then having a hoops marathon while the P5 is obsessed with football.
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Postby stever20 » Sun Aug 10, 2014 7:11 pm

Bluejay wrote:What I don't think everyone understands is that there is a certain recruiting benefit to a NYE marathon.

It is pretty well documented that we are selling the "you get to be the man on campus because we dont have football." What a better say to show that then having a hoops marathon while the P5 is obsessed with football.

Don't think schools like Kansas, Duke, etc. have a problem with that....

It's the entire package. It's not good business to put up good games to go up against the most popular sport in the country's semi-finals. Those games are going to get better ratings than a lot of NFL games. They'll have at least 10 million If not closer to 15 million viewers per game. on NYE even.
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Postby Frank the Tank » Mon Aug 25, 2014 12:49 pm

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Bluejay wrote:What I don't think everyone understands is that there is a certain recruiting benefit to a NYE marathon.

It is pretty well documented that we are selling the "you get to be the man on campus because we dont have football." What a better say to show that then having a hoops marathon while the P5 is obsessed with football.

Don't think schools like Kansas, Duke, etc. have a problem with that....

It's the entire package. It's not good business to put up good games to go up against the most popular sport in the country's semi-finals. Those games are going to get better ratings than a lot of NFL games. They'll have at least 10 million If not closer to 15 million viewers per game. on NYE even.


Yeah, I gotta agree with you here. Both FS1 and the Big East should avoid going head-to-head against the CFP playoff games like the plague. It doesn't matter whether people here personally would watch the CFP playoff games or not - the fact of the matter is that everything going up against them would be crushed in the ratings just like if they were going up against NFL playoff games or the Oscars. You can already see this on New Year's Day, where all of the "counterprogramming" from other sports (i.e. the NHL Winter Classic) are on BEFORE the Rose Bowl starts. No one actually wants to go up head-to-head against the Rose Bowl itself because it's ratings suicide.

Now, that doesn't mean that the Big East should abandon New Year's Eve completely. It still has time for a doubleheader starting around 12 pm ET before the CFP playoff games start. That's what the Big Ten appears to be planning for its New Year's Eve basketball schedule. (For the past several years, the B1G would have 4 or 5 games on New Year's Eve, but it looks like it will cut it down to an earlier in the day doubleheader this year to avoid the prime time New Year's Eve bowl games.)
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Re: 2015 New Year’s TV day for Big East - ProJo

Postby stever20 » Mon Aug 25, 2014 1:27 pm

Frank the Tank wrote:
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Bluejay wrote:What I don't think everyone understands is that there is a certain recruiting benefit to a NYE marathon.

It is pretty well documented that we are selling the "you get to be the man on campus because we dont have football." What a better say to show that then having a hoops marathon while the P5 is obsessed with football.

Don't think schools like Kansas, Duke, etc. have a problem with that....

It's the entire package. It's not good business to put up good games to go up against the most popular sport in the country's semi-finals. Those games are going to get better ratings than a lot of NFL games. They'll have at least 10 million If not closer to 15 million viewers per game. on NYE even.


Yeah, I gotta agree with you here. Both FS1 and the Big East should avoid going head-to-head against the CFP playoff games like the plague. It doesn't matter whether people here personally would watch the CFP playoff games or not - the fact of the matter is that everything going up against them would be crushed in the ratings just like if they were going up against NFL playoff games or the Oscars. You can already see this on New Year's Day, where all of the "counterprogramming" from other sports (i.e. the NHL Winter Classic) are on BEFORE the Rose Bowl starts. No one actually wants to go up head-to-head against the Rose Bowl itself because it's ratings suicide.

Now, that doesn't mean that the Big East should abandon New Year's Eve completely. It still has time for a doubleheader starting around 12 pm ET before the CFP playoff games start. That's what the Big Ten appears to be planning for its New Year's Eve basketball schedule. (For the past several years, the B1G would have 4 or 5 games on New Year's Eve, but it looks like it will cut it down to an earlier in the day doubleheader this year to avoid the prime time New Year's Eve bowl games.)

Yeah- I still say if the system hadn't changed- the NYE marathon was brilliant. But the fact is the system has changed and to act like it hasn't is just foolish.

I think doing a marathon on the 30th would be smarter than doing just a doubleheader on the 31st before the football playoff. The marathon itself is a stroke of genius. I think also having it on the 30th lends itself to maybe having even a St John's home game which would be huge.
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Re: 2015 New Year’s TV day for Big East - ProJo

Postby stever20 » Tue Aug 26, 2014 12:52 pm

I find it really interesting that we haven't heard anything of the marathon outside of McNamara. By late last June the Marathon was out of the bag and confirmed by the conference and fox. Guess we'll know for sure next week one way or the other.
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Re: 2015 New Year’s TV day for Big East - ProJo

Postby MUPanther » Fri Sep 26, 2014 8:56 pm

stever20 wrote:
FormulaX wrote:Risk? This isn't the BE tourney. It's the opening conference games. They have to be played that week anyway. It's smart to do something cool with them. Is there some thing better that Fs1 could show opposing the ncaafb?

The beauty of the marathon wasn't that it was on New Years eve, but it was the season opening marathon. It's a GREAT idea. If it's on Dec 30, it's a home run- and we'd probably see games getting 200-250k viewers per game. Not struggling to get 100k.

It looks like ESPN2 and ESPNU is basketball heavy day to night on Dec. 30, not the case on Dec. 31.
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