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Re: Dauster: On the coaching hires. How will it impact BE?

Postby X-man » Mon Aug 20, 2018 6:23 am

ProprietyofLeyluken wrote:
X-man wrote:Not sure where you get this interpretation of the article you cite. Here is what the author actually said about Steele.
" 9. TRAVIS STEELE, Xavier

Let me be clear on this: I do not think Travis Steele was a bad hire. I think he’s going to win at Xavier. I think he’s going to keep that program in and around the top 25, if not competing for Big East titles. This was the right hire. But he was always going to be the guy. This is what Xavier does. They promoted Sean Miller after Thad Matta left for Ohio State. He turned into a top ten coach in the country. After Miller left for Arizona, they promoted Mack, and ditto. Steele might end up on that same path. I wouldn’t be shocked. I just think that it’s more impressive to make a good hire at a bad job than it is to make the smart decision to hire from within when it’s the obvious move and what your program does."


You must have missed the category the writer put Steele under...
“Fine, if uninspiring”

He also ranked him below Mack (Louisville), Hurley (UConn), Hardaway (Memphis), Capel (Pitt), Howard (Lasalle), Christian (Siena), Medved (CSU), and Dooley (ECU).

Steele may turn out to be golden but he’s never been a HC before. That’s likely why he got the grade. Like St John’s and Georgetown, hiring a guy with no HC experience is a choice - not a necessity (like it largely was in the leagues Xavier has most often played in).

The jury is out on all those hires and that’s not a shameful thing to admit. We all want it to work.

And perhaps you missed the title of the article you posted, "2018 College Basketball Coaching Carousel: Ranking the 12 best hires from the spring of 2018". I put the phrase "the twelve best hires" in red to highlight my point. Somehow being one of the 12 "best" hires doesn't really scan as being one of the "worst" (your word)hires unless, of course, there were only 12 hires made last season.
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Re: Dauster: On the coaching hires. How will it impact BE?

Postby Fieldhouse Flyer » Tue Sep 11, 2018 11:17 am

X-man wrote:
ProprietyofLeyluken - perhaps you missed the title of the article you posted, "2018 College Basketball Coaching Carousel: Ranking the 12 best hires from the spring of 2018".

I put the phrase "the twelve best hires" in red to highlight my point. Somehow being one of the 12 "best" hires doesn't really scan as being one of the "worst" (your word) hires unless, of course, there were only 12 hires made last season.

X-man is right.

College basketball coaching changes: A complete list of every new coach at every school for 2018-19 – CBS Sports - June 26, 2018
The college basketball coaching carousel has stopped after 55 coaching changes.

Ninth place on a list of 55 coaches is top 16% of new head coaches, meaning 84% of the ‘new hires’ would be ranked ‘worse’ than Travis Steele.

Ninth place on a list of 12 coaches is top 75% of new head coaches, meaning only 25% of the ‘new hires’ would be ranked ‘worse’ than Travis Steele.

Big difference there, ProprietyofLeyluken.

In any event, the list is meaningless because it ranks a mixture of apples and oranges. New head coaches with previous head coaching experience is a different category than new head coaches without previous experience as a head coach, and there is no logical nor objective basis to compare the two categories. The list is merely speculative fodder for the off-season.

Paul Daugherty: Xavier in good hands with new coach Travis Steele - Paul Daugherty, Cincinnati Enquirer - March 31, 2018

Paul’s Daugherty’s article is well worth a read if you missed it in March. In any event, you generally cannot evaluate the quality of a college basketball head coach hire until the team’s roster no longer contains any key players that were recruited by the previous head coach. This usually takes three or four seasons at most schools.
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In Post # 1 ProprietyofLeyluken wrote:
Look at how the A10 slipped last year because they couldn’t retain Miller and Wade.

I wanted to reply to this in detail without taking this thread off-topic, so I posted my reply on the The Dayton Thread… in the HLOH Off Topic forum.
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Re: Dauster: On the coaching hires. How will it impact BE?

Postby Fieldhouse Flyer » Thu Oct 11, 2018 8:52 am

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Paul Daugherty: Xavier in good hands with new coach Travis Steele - Paul Daugherty, Cincinnati Enquirer - March 31, 2018


This lengthy article, featured on today's Yahoo! College Basketball homepage, is well-worth a read:

A lifelong dream: How Travis Steele became the head basketball coach at Xavier University - Adam Baum, Cincinnati Enquirer - October 10, 2018


Travis Steele Official Bio – Xavier University
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