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Re: Budding Rivalries?

Postby Mufan15 » Wed Apr 06, 2016 2:43 pm

whiteandblue77 wrote:X and Marquette for Creighton. Neither one thinks we're worthy yet, and that gives us even more incentive :D . I'd say Butler as well, similar school.


I don't think most Marquette fans think creighton is unworthy of the big east. I do think creighton fans have a bit of an inflated view of their program. I see creighton as a good program that will rarely go more than two years without making the tournament and will occasionally compete for big east championships. But I think a lot of creighton fans (led by gtmo) think they will compete for the big east championship every year. Which is a perfectly respectable goal and aspiration but it isn't the reality of their current position in the conference. I expect most fan bases to have an inflated view of their own program but it gets a bit old reading creighton fans claim they are better than anyone gives them credit for.

Disclaimer: this is just what I have perceived and may be greatly influenced by the absolutly ridiculous predictions I disproportionately remember reading from gtmo.
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Postby hoops22 » Wed Apr 06, 2016 3:51 pm

ivet wrote:DePaul's budding new rival is St. John's. They are trying to take over our 10th spot. no no no no St. John's, that is DePaul's rightful place in the Big East.


I hate to admit it, but Depaul was the game a lot of Johnnie fans had circled on the calendar, if we were ever going to win a league game. No offense, but I'm hoping this rivalry is a short lived one.
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Re: Budding Rivalries?

Postby marquette » Wed Apr 06, 2016 3:53 pm

Mufan15 wrote:
whiteandblue77 wrote:X and Marquette for Creighton. Neither one thinks we're worthy yet, and that gives us even more incentive :D . I'd say Butler as well, similar school.


I don't think most Marquette fans think creighton is unworthy of the big east. I do think creighton fans have a bit of an inflated view of their program. I see creighton as a good program that will rarely go more than two years without making the tournament and will occasionally compete for big east championships. But I think a lot of creighton fans (led by gtmo) think they will compete for the big east championship every year. Which is a perfectly respectable goal and aspiration but it isn't the reality of their current position in the conference. I expect most fan bases to have an inflated view of their own program but it gets a bit old reading creighton fans claim they are better than anyone gives them credit for.

Disclaimer: this is just what I have perceived and may be greatly influenced by the absolutly ridiculous predictions I disproportionately remember reading from gtmo.


Gtmo believes Creighton has a shot at the presidency. Now that's a real national championship.

Just kidding, gtmo. Your posts are generally pretty fun.

I also don't think most of us believe Creighton doesn't belong. I'm pretty sure MU was leading the charge to get CU into the conference. Happy to have you.
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Re: Budding Rivalries?

Postby RetireFiftyTu » Wed Apr 06, 2016 4:27 pm

Obviously for Xavier the biggest rivalry is Butler. Xavier owns Butler though. Xavier has won:
6 of last 7
9 of last 11
16 of the last 20
29 of the last 37
During Big East play it seemed almost every team seemed to have something against Xavier. Not sure if Reynolds and Macura just piss everyone off so they think the whole team is like that or what. I think the three biggest developing rivalries for Xavier are Villanova, Seton Hall, and Creighton. Villanova because Xavier has finally proven they can beaten them and they will be near the top of the league pretty consistently. Seton Hall because those games have been sort of chippy. There seems to be some mutual dislike from both sides. Creighton because X and CU have been playing pretty consistently the last 10 or 15 years and the Jays seem to have Xavier's number.
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Postby FenwayFriar » Wed Apr 06, 2016 5:20 pm

For the Friars, I know our fans get real amped to head to MSG to play St. John's. We always have a good contingent of fans that make the short ride from RI to NYC, plus we have a lot of alums already living in the city. Also, after our OT win against Nova at WFC this past year and our Big East Tournament losses (including the Archie flop with 4 seconds left in '15) the last 2 years, I can see that rivalry continue.
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Re: Budding Rivalries?

Postby gtmoBlue » Wed Apr 06, 2016 6:17 pm

marquette wrote:
Mufan15 wrote:
I don't think most Marquette fans think creighton is unworthy of the big east. I do think creighton fans have a bit of an inflated view of their program. I see creighton as a good program that will rarely go more than two years without making the tournament and will occasionally compete for big east championships. But I think a lot of creighton fans (led by gtmo) think they will compete for the big east championship every year. Which is a perfectly respectable goal and aspiration but it isn't the reality of their current position in the conference. I expect most fan bases to have an inflated view of their own program but it gets a bit old reading creighton fans claim they are better than anyone gives them credit for.

Disclaimer: this is just what I have perceived and may be greatly influenced by the absolutly ridiculous predictions I disproportionately remember reading from gtmo.


Gtmo believes Creighton has a shot at the presidency. Now that's a real national championship.

Just kidding, gtmo. Your posts are generally pretty fun.

I also don't think most of us believe Creighton doesn't belong. I'm pretty sure MU was leading the charge to get CU into the conference. Happy to have you.


Most of our CU fans are conservative, milquetoast, pantywaist types. They glance twice at their shadows - before proceeding. But ya gotta luv' 'em. Most CU fans do not have an inflated view of our program - which is one of my least favorite things about our fanbase. Conservativism, realism, practicality...blah, blah, blah - really irritating. Many make pedestrian (18-13/9-9) or worse predicitions and are charter members of Negative Thinking Anonymous ("...but I hope I'm wrong") school of thought. However there is a small contingent of elitist pr__ks in the group. Not of the grand mal variety of pr__ks like the Foggy Bottom types, Creighton has petit mal elitist pr__ks.

Therefore it falls on a relative handful of the remaining folk (WhiteandBlue77, the WizofWestroads, Mel Ott, CUFinalFour, gtmo, SavannahJay, Polyfro, and a handful of others) to carry the load. Granted that ol' cufinalfour is the Premier outlier fanatic (he stole the title last year)...I have merely been around a lot longer on our boards.

But MUfan15 - you are mistaken. We are in the BE now and our recruiting has finally taken off. Creighton will contend annually, while the rest of you may have performance "cycles". I fully expect the Jays to win the BE next season - 2016/17. Of course, I always expect them (the Jays) to win. And they will win the conference in 2016-17. The rest of you will be rebuilding after losing more than expected, plus we are getting stronger, faster, better (Did I mention Marcus Foster and Patton yet?).

You will all learn to hate Creighton..and that is as it should be. Cause the Jays are gonna be the team to beat over the next 6-10 years. You will all become Bluejay haters...and we will Still spank dat hiney!

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Re: Budding Rivalries?

Postby scoscox » Wed Apr 06, 2016 6:52 pm

NovaBall wrote:Nova v. Xavier is turning into a good one.

Butler fans seem extremely feisty and aggressive on their home board. Very chippy towards opposing fans. But they haven't really developed any particular team for a rivalry.


Butler hates Xavier. It's mutual, but we absolutely have their number, so it's not quite as intense.

Agreed on Nova. Also agree with RetireFiftyTu. Most games were chippy this year and I think that mostly stems from our players and also from getting big leads on teams and giving up comebacks. Teams start to think they can hang, so they don't take the noise anymore. I like all the rivalries. All the games are fun it's so much better than playing in the A-10 it's not even comparable. I think the Nova X rivalry is fun, but their seems to be a lot of mutual respect. I love the Georgetown game and think that will get heated if their program and fans ever wake up...
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Re: Budding Rivalries?

Postby MUBoxer » Wed Apr 06, 2016 6:55 pm

Mufan15 wrote:
whiteandblue77 wrote:X and Marquette for Creighton. Neither one thinks we're worthy yet, and that gives us even more incentive :D . I'd say Butler as well, similar school.


I don't think most Marquette fans think creighton is unworthy of the big east. I do think creighton fans have a bit of an inflated view of their program. I see creighton as a good program that will rarely go more than two years without making the tournament and will occasionally compete for big east championships. But I think a lot of creighton fans (led by gtmo) think they will compete for the big east championship every year. Which is a perfectly respectable goal and aspiration but it isn't the reality of their current position in the conference. I expect most fan bases to have an inflated view of their own program but it gets a bit old reading creighton fans claim they are better than anyone gives them credit for.

Disclaimer: this is just what I have perceived and may be greatly influenced by the absolutly ridiculous predictions I disproportionately remember reading from gtmo.


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Postby badnews24 » Wed Apr 06, 2016 7:06 pm

Adding another Friar perspective, we dislike ALL of the teams. We especially can't stand the four other "originals." We have a long and healthy hate for the Johnnies (the first team to ever beat us at the Dunk) and Nova. We battled with the Hall to stay out of the basement in the early days. And do we even need a reason to hate the Hoyas? We hate Marquette because we can't win in Milwaukee. We hate DePaul for being so bad for so long. We hate X, Butler and Creighton because...well...why not? You're our opponents. Don't get me wrong. We root hard for our brethren during the Tourney. We're loyal to the BEAST, but there's a lot of hate. On a more serious note, this league is so competitive it's just fun to watch. And I fully expect both St. John's and DePaul to better soon, so it's just going to make every game that much more meaningful in the future.
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Re: Budding Rivalries?

Postby marquette » Wed Apr 06, 2016 7:32 pm

Gtmo is the anti-stever. Always positive to a fault. Can't be mad at that.
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