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Re: Which team will finish in 9th place this season?

PostPosted: Sun Sep 20, 2015 5:34 pm
by hoyahooligan
My Rankings PreSeason:

10: St. John's
9: Seton Hall
8: DePaul
7: Creighton
6: Marquette
5: Providence

4: Xavier
3: Butler
2: Georgetown
1: Nova

Re: Which team will finish in 9th place this season?

PostPosted: Sun Sep 20, 2015 9:06 pm
by MUBoxer
gtmoBlue wrote:
milksteak wrote:I will eat my freakin' hat if Creighton gets 14 conference wins this season.
.

You want A1, Worcestershire, or Heinz 57 with that hat?


What were your preseason rankings last year?

Re: Which team will finish in 9th place this season?

PostPosted: Mon Sep 21, 2015 10:55 am
by Westbrook#36
MUBoxer wrote:
gtmoBlue wrote:
milksteak wrote:I will eat my freakin' hat if Creighton gets 14 conference wins this season.
.

You want A1, Worcestershire, or Heinz 57 with that hat?


What were your preseason rankings last year?


gtmo's got all kinds of leftover condiments from last year, needed something to put on all that crow. BTW, if Nova finishes 6th this year in the BE, I'll give up alcohol and coffee for a month.

Re: Which team will finish in 9th place this season?

PostPosted: Mon Sep 21, 2015 12:10 pm
by milksteak
hoyahooligan wrote:My Rankings PreSeason:

10: St. John's
9: Seton Hall
8: DePaul
7: Creighton
6: Marquette
5: Providence

4: Xavier
3: Butler
2: Georgetown
1: Nova


Mine's pretty similar.

10. Seton Hall - Team will quit on Willard
9. SJU - New coach, too many new faces
8. DePaul - Same old, same old
...
7. Creighton - They've gotta be better, right? Lost a lot of close games last season.
6. Providence - Have the best player in the league, supporting cast is decent
5. Marquette - Ellenson will make them much better, return a lot of promising players
...
4. Georgetown - DSR has solid support in Peak and Copeland, lots of question marks about the rest of the team
3. Butler - Dunham and Jones are first-team caliber players, defense will be down a lot from last season
2. Xavier - Very balanced, expect big things from Blueitt, Reynolds, Macura
1. Villanova - Haven't shown any indication they belong anywhere else

Teams are interchangeable in their tiers.

Re: Which team will finish in 9th place this season?

PostPosted: Mon Sep 21, 2015 12:14 pm
by stever20
milksteak wrote:
Mine's pretty similar.

10. Seton Hall - Team will quit on Willard
9. SJU - New coach, too many new faces
8. DePaul - Same old, same old
...
7. Creighton - They've gotta be better, right? Lost a lot of close games last season.
6. Providence - Have the best player in the league, supporting cast is decent
5. Marquette - Ellenson will make them much better, return a lot of promising players
...
4. Georgetown - DSR has solid support in Peak and Copeland, lots of question marks about the rest of the team
3. Butler - Dunham and Jones are first-team caliber players, defense will be down a lot from last season
2. Xavier - Very balanced, expect big things from Blueitt, Reynolds, Macura
1. Villanova - Haven't shown any indication of belonging anywhere else

Teams are interchangeable in their tiers.


Those standings would be really dangerous. Marquette's OOC schedule is so mediocre that unless they are like 11-7 in conference play, they're going to struggle to get in the tourney. Very tough in round robin to get 11 wins and finishing 5th.. PC at 6 tough to get in as well.

Re: Which team will finish in 9th place this season?

PostPosted: Mon Sep 21, 2015 1:25 pm
by Vill
I think PC takes a huge step back this year. 9th may be too low, but this is my surprise pick.

Re: Which team will finish in 9th place this season?

PostPosted: Mon Sep 21, 2015 2:19 pm
by gtmoBlue
MUBoxer wrote:
gtmoBlue wrote:
milksteak wrote:I will eat my freakin' hat if Creighton gets 14 conference wins this season.
.

You want A1, Worcestershire, or Heinz 57 with that hat?


What were your preseason rankings last year?


Didn't do a conference breakout, not normally a part of my preseason package. My Creighton numbers were the same with a 2nd place finish, after subtracting an across the board, 5% standard deviation from "gtmo normal".

My 15 August 2015, annual "official" predictions are lower. This latest projection is based off the recently published BE Conference schedule.

Re: Which team will finish in 9th place this season?

PostPosted: Mon Sep 21, 2015 2:37 pm
by MUBoxer
gtmoBlue wrote:
Didn't do a conference breakout, not normally a part of my preseason package. My Creighton numbers were the same with a 2nd place finish, after subtracting an across the board, 5% standard deviation from "gtmo normal".

My 15 August 2015, annual "official" predictions are lower. This latest projection is based off the recently published BE Conference schedule.


So last year your numbers were the same only for a second place finish?

Ah I see because in a conference slate where we all play each other home and away some people can have a harder schedule that drastically change the talent difference. makes sense.

Re: Which team will finish in 9th place this season?

PostPosted: Mon Sep 21, 2015 2:47 pm
by Omaha1
Do you have a crazy uncle? Most families do. Creighton's crazy uncle is gtmo. While most of us think can can sort of fun and that he's kind of zany, please do not take his postings as the thoughts of the fan base.

Re: Which team will finish in 9th place this season?

PostPosted: Mon Sep 21, 2015 3:00 pm
by Edrick
gtmoBlue wrote:
milksteak wrote:I will eat my freakin' hat if Creighton gets 14 conference wins this season.
.

You want A1, Worcestershire, or Heinz 57 with that hat?


Yeah, there's 0% chance so you can probably go with dealer's choice. I'd be shocked if they're picked out of the bottom 1/3 --- and unless we play like 40 conference games, getting to 14 in the bottom 1/3 is going to be mathematically problematic.