ACC to Barclays

[hoyahooligan]

Whether it's the B1G or ACC in Brooklyn it's a far bigger event than anything the NBE can put on anywhere. TV doesn't differentiate between MSG and Barclay's. NBE is not, nor will ever draw tv eyeballs anywhere near B1G or ACC.

I disagree with some of this.

The BE tournament is a much bigger "event" than the B1G or ACC tournaments. The BE tournament has always been the biggest and best tournament. The teams care about the conference tournament. It's not nearly as big a deal in other conferences. They value their regular season titles over their conference championships. BE is pretty much the only conference that it's the other way around.

Maybe they won't draw as many TV eyeballs but Who cares about the TV viewership though? The BE tournament:

1) Will sell more tickets in MSG than the ACC will in Brooklyn. I guarantee that fact
2) The BE will be the bigger event in the sense that more people care about it and more casual people will care about it.

You can't possibly believe that

Sure I can both tournaments will be officially sold out because the venue sells the tickets to the conference. MSG sits ~2000 more people than Barclays does therefore BE will sell more tickets than the ACC. I win.

[BEwannabe]

they'll have afternoon/evening doubleheaders the first 2 days, ACC 2014 lasts 5 days, B1G - 4 days - 5days in 2015. So unless they're playing at McDonough I win.

[hoyahooligan]

they'll have afternoon/evening doubleheaders the first 2 days, ACC 2014 lasts 5 days, B1G - 4 days - 5days in 2015. So unless they're playing at McDonough I win.

Fine we'll have a higher average attendance than them. Whatever. The point is they're not going to overshadow us like you claim.

[TheHall]

they'll have afternoon/evening doubleheaders the first 2 days, ACC 2014 lasts 5 days, B1G - 4 days - 5days in 2015. So unless they're playing at McDonough I win.

You lose simply because everyone already knows the B1G, ACC etc would much rather be at MSG. Barclay's not on same level MSG for so many reasons.

[BEwannabe]

Not the case at all, MSG wants long term deals and there is no way B1G and ACC will make that kind of commitment, maybe nACC but no way B1G. I can only guess some of you have no clue about B1G. & their fan bases. B1G isn't going to stop going to Chicago & Indy for a long term MSG deal. If you don't know why then you don't know why.

[GumbyDamnit!]

Hmm... Brooklyn or Manhattan? Which is the more desirous locale? If the ACC could choose between the two they would certainly want to be in MSG. Now in terms of the rest of the pissing contest, who really cares? We have a great thing going. We are not trying to be the ACC or the B1G--we are content with being THE premier hoops-only conference in the America. Our fans will fill the best hotels NYC has to offer and eat at the best restaurants, and the ACC fans can hang in Brooklyn. Its like 2 totally different experiences. (he says grinning from ear to ear)

[Lavinwood]

The Barclays Center is a rookie. It's just getting established. MSG is the 5 star veteran general. MSG has already had some of the more memorable moments and it's a national landmark. Barclays is a rust box in the middle of one of the last areas that hasn't been gentrified by hipsters from other states in BK. But we all know the hipsters will take over soon. The irony is that hipsters want to come to gritty, urban areas to prove how "working class" they are, but as they all move in, the areas become known as artsy, soft, and insanely expensive to live in, thus gentrifying it. New York isn't really New York anymore. The real New Yorker's have moved from the city to Westchester, Jersey,, CT, and LI. People from Montana and Ohio come to the NYC area for college, get an internship, and find a job in the area so they stay. Sorry for my hipster rant but New Yorker's know what I'm talking about!

Ritsy Manhattan full of tradition and glamour > Hipster Brooklyn (why isn't Pabst or Ray Ban a sponsor for Barclays?!)

[JOPO]

Whether it's the B1G or ACC in Brooklyn it's a far bigger event than anything the NBE can put on anywhere. TV doesn't differentiate between MSG and Barclay's. NBE is not, nor will ever draw tv eyeballs anywhere near B1G or ACC.

Umm, no. Plus, when the ACC goes to Brooklyn who will be there? Those southern schools aren't going to want to come up north every year and will be pissed doing it even once. Sure, Syracuse fans will probably fill the place but if they get knocked out, especially an an early round, the place will be filled with crickets! That always looks good on TV!

[JOPO]

they'll have afternoon/evening doubleheaders the first 2 days, ACC 2014 lasts 5 days, B1G - 4 days - 5days in 2015. So unless they're playing at McDonough I win.

You lose simply because everyone already knows the B1G, ACC etc would much rather be at MSG. Barclay's not on same level MSG for so many reasons.

The Big East also has two local schools in Seton Hall and St. John's. Students and alumni of both schools are right there. Seton Hall is a direct train ride away and many students head right over. Not sure of the train setup from St. John's but I can't imagine it would be much different. Sure, the ACC now has Syracuse fans to take over the Barclays, the southern schools should love that! But who else? No schools right in the local area. The Big Ten has no one. Who in this area will be excited about them? No one.

[TheHall]

Not the case at all, MSG wants long term deals and there is no way B1G and ACC will make that kind of commitment, maybe nACC but no way B1G. I can only guess some of you have no clue about B1G. & their fan bases. B1G isn't going to stop going to Chicago & Indy for a long term MSG deal. If you don't know why then you don't know why.

No I didn't mean it in that way. I meant to whatever degree these other conferences would like their tournys to be in NYC, every 4 years (ACC?) or every year (A10?) or whatever...they would all rather be at MSG than Barclays. But I do believe the main reason MSG wants a long term contract is because that's what it would take to consider breaking its exclusive deal with the historically highly profitable BET & the local progs.