If McDermott wins NPOY where will he rank in Big East lore?

[Randy]

Great player, no doubt about it.

However, fair or not fair, he will be viewed as a small school guy that racked up a crap load of points in a system his dad built around him. I only say this because I have already had this conversation with several people. He will be in the same mold as Morrison. (It goes without saying that I couldn't possibly disagree any more)

A deep NCAA run would have changed the perception. Didn't happen. Sustained success in the NBA would also change that perception. We will see on that one.
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[Gibbsyonemoreyear!]

I'm not gonna put limits on McDermott, because he surpasses them time and time again. He has been gifted with an amazing touch and has fine tuned himself into an offensive juggernaut through hard work and determination. His skill is pure joy to witness. He will be a very good professional and a difference maker on whichever team(s) to he lands, with this I feel complete confidence. So glad he came back to usher the Jays into this new era of Big East basketball.

[mel ott]

Great player, no doubt about it.

However, fair or not fair, he will be viewed as a small school guy that racked up a crap load of points in a system his dad built around him. I only say this because I have already had this conversation with several people. He will be in the same mold as Morrison. (It goes without saying that I couldn't possibly disagree any more)

A deep NCAA run would have changed the perception. Didn't happen. Sustained success in the NBA would also change that perception. We will see on that one.
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I agree that he won't be perceived as one of the top of the Big East since he only spent one year in the Big East. However, to say he was a small school guy or a Valley guy is very wrong when looking at the numbers. His best year was this year with the Big East and better athletes. Over the last several years where Creighton was like 13-2 against "the big BCS boys" his numbers where higher than his average. He dominated almost every game where teams were trying to stop him. It's ignorance or arrogance for people to say he did it against inferior competition. Maybe they should look at his camp with the pre Olympic team this summer with the NBA stars- he handled himself very well.

[LeMoyne00]

In new Big East lore he is the standard by which all will be measured going forward - small school or not.

That said, I'm not sure people (especially not the media) are really looking at comparing him to the past Big East greats. It's a new conference and a new era the sooner we all embrace the future and quit trying to compare to the past, the more successful this conference can be and the less flack it will take for the name.

[stever20]

In new Big East lore he is the standard by which all will be measured going forward - small school or not.

That said, I'm not sure people (especially not the media) are really looking at comparing him to the past Big East greats. It's a new conference and a new era the sooner we all embrace the future and quit trying to compare to the past, the more successful this conference can be and the less flack it will take for the name.

The fact is though, since we have the old name, that's who he's going to be compared against. 10 years from now you say Big East, folks are still going to say Ewing, Mullin, etc. Maybe not as much Syracuse guys.

[cu blujs]

Personally, I doubt DM gives two hoots where anyone thinks he stands in Big East lore. His college career will go down as one of the greatest college careers of all time and he will always be the only three time AA in something like 25 years, and will stand 5th all time in the scoring list for a long time to come.

What is really dumb about the "his daddy designed an offense around him" posts is that every coach worth two cents is smart enough to design his offense around the player who is your best offensive scorer, whose offensive efficiency is better than any player in years according to statitions, and who, outside of one or two games, no one has been able to stop let alone hardly slow down in two years, no matter what defense they try to throw at him. On top of that, what player who averages 25+ points a game doesn't have the offense built around him, whether its running screens to get him open or get him matched up on smaller players on switches, running pick and pops for him or just clearing out and letting him do his thing? It would not have mattered a lick had he played for for some other halfway intelligent coach instead of his dad.

[stever20]

Personally, I doubt DM gives two hoots where anyone thinks he stands in Big East lore. His college career will go down as one of the greatest college careers of all time and he will always be the only three time AA in something like 25 years, and will stand 5th all time in the scoring list for a long time to come.

What is really dumb about the "his daddy designed an offense around him" posts is that every coach worth two cents is smart enough to design his offense around the player who is your best offensive scorer, whose offensive efficiency is better than any player in years according to statitions, and who, outside of one or two games, no one has been able to stop let alone hardly slow down in two years, no matter what defense they try to throw at him. On top of that, what player who averages 25+ points a game doesn't have the offense built around him, whether its running screens to get him open or get him matched up on smaller players on switches, running pick and pops for him or just clearing out and letting him do his thing? It would not have mattered a lick had he played for for some other halfway intelligent coach instead of his dad.

Shoot, didn't watch a lot of him from first 3 years, but sometimes, playing for your dad can be HARDER than playing for someone else.

[redmen9194]

Great player. Glad he wore the Big East on his uniform for his final season.

[SecureDaBall]

This is a different era so I don't consider McDermott an all-time great college player. He is a great player in the era he played in but he doesn't stack up against the greats of other eras. Also, you need to make a run in the NCAA tourney to truly be considered an all-time great in any era so to me he is not in the conversation. I didn't expect him to be Danny Manning, Glenn Rice or Kemba Walker but a Sweet Sixteen was more than a reasonable prerequisite for him to qualify for entry into the discussion.

[CPJays]

Won the AP POY with 64 out of 65 possible first place votes. Largest margin of victory in AP history.