DudeAnon wrote:stever20 wrote:meanwhile on the USA Today countdown, they have Georgetown in as the #37 team- but as the 2nd highest team in the Big East. Just shows what the perception is for the Big East going into this year.
-stever20:
SJHooper wrote:Honestly, other than Nova, what team deserves to be in the top 25? None. There are a ton of great players leaving and a lot of unknown. We really need at least 2 more teams to step up and consistently be top 25 to get that national recognition as a legit conference. I know some of you will say as long as teams make the tourney who cares, but our perception is important to me at least. When you're used to being the king conference undisputed since forever, you do not want to play second fiddle. There are too many great programs here to only have 1 program top 25. I hope it's just been a rough patch and teams like Marquette, G'Town, Xavier, etc. get back to being ranked consistently because if not we will only be called mid major more and more even if it's technically not true.
SJHooper wrote:Honestly, other than Nova, what team deserves to be in the top 25? None. There are a ton of great players leaving and a lot of unknown. We really need at least 2 more teams to step up and consistently be top 25 to get that national recognition as a legit conference. I know some of you will say as long as teams make the tourney who cares, but our perception is important to me at least. When you're used to being the king conference undisputed since forever, you do not want to play second fiddle. There are too many great programs here to only have 1 program top 25. I hope it's just been a rough patch and teams like Marquette, G'Town, Xavier, etc. get back to being ranked consistently because if not we will only be called mid major more and more even if it's technically not true.
stever20 wrote:So what does a preseason projection showing our 2nd best team as #37 mean to you with regards to our perception? With our 4th best team in the play in game in the same projection? Or most preseason polls showing the Big East with 1 top 25 team? How else can you react other than badly? Are we just supposed to bury our heads in the sand?
DudeAnon wrote:stever20 wrote:So what does a preseason projection showing our 2nd best team as #37 mean to you with regards to our perception? With our 4th best team in the play in game in the same projection? Or most preseason polls showing the Big East with 1 top 25 team? How else can you react other than badly? Are we just supposed to bury our heads in the sand?
C'mon dude, don't act like you are some bastion of objectivity. You only site facts when they suit your pessimistic view of the conference.
Besides, the beautiful thing about sports is that perception means squat. Just win baby.
DudeAnon wrote:stever20 wrote:So what does a preseason projection showing our 2nd best team as #37 mean to you with regards to our perception? With our 4th best team in the play in game in the same projection? Or most preseason polls showing the Big East with 1 top 25 team? How else can you react other than badly? Are we just supposed to bury our heads in the sand?
C'mon dude, don't act like you are some bastion of objectivity. You only site facts when they suit your pessimistic view of the conference.
Besides, the beautiful thing about sports is that perception means squat. Just win baby.
stever20 wrote:ACC- most recent Notre Dame #45 8th- 7 teams left
B10- most recent Minnesota #46 8th- 7 teams left
B12- most recent West Virginia #47 6th- 5 teams left
AAC- most recent Tulsa #48 4th- 3 teams left
P12- most recent Oregon #49 6th- 5 teams left
SEC- most recent Alabama #50 5th- 4 teams left
BE- most recent Butler #51 4th- 3 teams left
A10- most recent Rhode Island #57- 5th- 4 teams left
MW- most recent New Mexico #67 3rd- 2 teams left
WCC- most recent San Francisco #71 3rd- 2 teams left
2nd 4 teams out: 53 Illinois, 54 Florida St, 55 Georgia, 56 Providence
1st 4 teams out: 49 Oregon, 50 Alabama, 51 Butler, 52 Cincy
Last 4 teams in: 45 Notre Dame, 46 Minnesota, 47 West Virginia, 48 Tulsa
NCAA projection by conference
ACC 8(plus 1 on outside of bubble in 1st 8 out)
B10 8(plus 1)
B12 6
P12 5(plus 1)
SEC 4(plus 2)
AAC 4(plus 1)
A10 4
BE 3(plus 2)
MWC, WCC 2 each
Just looking, I'd say this projection is looking pretty good for us. I think they messed up with Seton Hall, so that would give us a 6th team in contention. As I said before, I look at last 8 teams in and first 8 teams out in a projection like this as being pretty much the same. So I see Notre Dame and Providence for example being pretty much equal.
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