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[Dew]

It's interesting to me that he left for Texas now when it seemed as though he had better offers last year. You have to womder if he's concerned (even a little bit) about the long term viability of the A10 and how the league is going to handle cost of attendance.

A-10 will be fine. I mean, they are easily a top 10 conference. If they can't afford any of the changes I would be shocked.

The A-10 got 3 teams in the NCAA this year and one was the last team in. You think Fordham is going to be able to pay full cost?

[Hoyas]

It's interesting to me that he left for Texas now when it seemed as though he had better offers last year. You have to womder if he's concerned (even a little bit) about the long term viability of the A10 and how the league is going to handle cost of attendance.

A-10 will be fine. I mean, they are easily a top 10 conference. If they can't afford any of the changes I would be shocked.

The A-10 got 3 teams in the NCAA this year and one was the last team in. You think Fordham is going to be able to pay full cost?

No, but Fordham leaving would be the old addition by subtraction.

[DudeAnon]

It's interesting to me that he left for Texas now when it seemed as though he had better offers last year. You have to womder if he's concerned (even a little bit) about the long term viability of the A10 and how the league is going to handle cost of attendance.

A-10 will be fine. I mean, they are easily a top 10 conference. If they can't afford any of the changes I would be shocked.

The A-10 got 3 teams in the NCAA this year and one was the last team in. You think Fordham is going to be able to pay full cost?

I don't want to get all "mathematical" about this. All I will say is I would be shocked if the A-10 doesn't keep up with the changes.

[Dew]

I don't want to get all "mathematical" about this. All I will say is I would be shocked if the A-10 doesn't keep up with the changes.

But it's sort of a mathematical issue right? If there isn't TV money and NCAA revenue to pay the cost, how will the A10 do it? They can't have some schools paying full cost and not others. I don't know why Fordham would leave the A10 when what they get would decrease dramatically in a different league.

[XUFan09]

I don't want to get all "mathematical" about this. All I will say is I would be shocked if the A-10 doesn't keep up with the changes.

But it's sort of a mathematical issue right? If there isn't TV money and NCAA revenue to pay the cost, how will the A10 do it? They can't have some schools paying full cost and not others. I don't know why Fordham would leave the A10 when what they get would decrease dramatically in a different league.

I read somewhere that if the A10 matches the Football 5 and the Big East in pay for play, then Fordham would not follow and consequently would have to leave the conference. Might have just been speculation, though.

[Xudash]

I don't want to get all "mathematical" about this. All I will say is I would be shocked if the A-10 doesn't keep up with the changes.

But it's sort of a mathematical issue right? If there isn't TV money and NCAA revenue to pay the cost, how will the A10 do it? They can't have some schools paying full cost and not others. I don't know why Fordham would leave the A10 when what they get would decrease dramatically in a different league.

It is mathematical. More precisely, it's a business matter: cashflow is king, and this area obviously constitutes another CASH OUT item.

The A10's television agreement is anemic. That problem alone drove Xavier crazy when it was in the A10. The A10 is in no position to improve its TV deal. You can't lose Xavier, Temple, and Butler (albeit a brief stay) etc. and backfill them with VCU, George Mason and Davidson and think you're in a better position than you were before.

Without a solid television agreement, I would think an Athletic Director would have to begin looking at his or her other key cashflow sources:

- NCAA Unit participation.
- Home gate receipts.
- Away game distributions.
- Booster club support.
- Merchandise sales.

As far as home attendance revenue is concerned, what portion, if any, of those gate receipts come through under seat licensing agreements? Otherwise, does a school's venue include suites or special hospitality level revenue? Most A10 schools don't ponder these questions, because they're in no position to do so facilities-wise or with respect to demand (i.e. fan support).

Looking at the A10, I'd guess that only 3 A10 schools average at least 7k'ish in average home attendance, and SLU had better get its act together under Crews or it may slip up at that, even with its newish facility. Otherwise, at the all-too-consistent bottom of the A10 exists Fordham, LaSalle, Duquesne, GW, St. Joe's and SBU, operating out of smallish facilities with little to no amenities and attendance numbers that, except for SBU, probably seldom reach 5K on average. GW and St. Joe's renovated, but with small vision. GW probably was literally boxed in where it sits in D.C. But I'll never understand why St. Joe's spent itself into $15mm of mid-majordum. I suspect the new additions = Mason and Davidson - aren't exactly kicking butt in this area as well - Mason due to performance and Davidson due to its small size.

The A10 is not a 6 bid conference year in and year out. What happened last year was lightning in a bottle with the rosters it ended up playing. Obviously, it cycled down to 3 bids this year, with its last bid being the last entry into the Tournament.

Just looking at the primary sources of cashflow, the A10 is heavily dependent upon NCAA Unit monies. All of its programs can't rely on television money and most of its programs can't drive internally generated cashflow to any substantial degree.

I would think the sources for "stipend funding" is going to be anemic for most A10 programs. That will put stress on the conference as a whole as the weaker programs weaken further. And those Xavier/Temple NCAA Units are running off.

[BEwannabe]

It's not if Fordham can afford to pay rather the if they want to pay. Fordham could definitely afford to pay, their endowment is nearly 6 times larger than Butler and Xavier. The thinking though is they're just not committed to D1 sports and would not the money be better spent elsewhere. Why would you pay for the results they get?

[HoosierPal]

Koch money helps keep Marshall in Wichita.

http://deadspin.com/charles-koch-ponied-up-to-keep-gregg-marshall-at-wichit-1695496201

[Hoyas]

The A10 is still pretty well situated with NCAA units from the departed schools the next 3-4 years....

This year the A10 got 19 units from Xavier, Temple, and Butler. That's 4.75 million dollars.
next year 15- 3.75 million.
2017 11- 2.75 million
2018 8- 2 million
2019 4- 1 million

So even after this year still 38 units left for them to collect or about 9.5 million dollars.

And that doesn't even take into account
2015 tournament with 5 units
2014 tournament with 10 units- add that to the previous numbers
2013 tournament with 8 units- add that to the previous numbers.

so not even going any further- next year the A10 would have 38 units or about 9.5 million dollars.
2017 would have 34 units or about 8.5 million dollars
2018 would have 31 units or about 7.75 million dollars
2019 would have 27 units or about 6.75 million dollars

it's really going to be 5-6 years before the units start to be a question.

Also have got to remember for Dayton, while yes they were the last team in, they won 2 games, so they are worth 750k for 6 years going forward- or about 4.5 million dollars.

[BEwannabe]

The A10 is still pretty well situated with NCAA units from the departed schools the next 3-4 years....


Also have got to remember for Dayton, while yes they were the last team in, they won 2 games, so they are worth 750k for 6 years going forward- or about 4.5 million dollars.

but you're letting facts get in the way of bias