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Re: (1) Wednesday Big East Game 1/20/21

Postby Friarsfan94 » Thu Jan 21, 2021 12:27 pm

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cu blujs wrote:Time to start a new winning streak. Considering Ballock was essentially a no-show in the scoring column at the Bluejay's personal house of horrors named Hinkle, I expect him to continue his up and down shooting this year by going something like 6-8 from three tonight and the Jays to go near 50% from 3 as a team.


Ballock has to be the biggest disappointment in the conference. He was a top 10 BE player preseason on every list you could find, but he's nowhere near that now.....what the neck is going on?

I know Coach Mac loves the guy but if his recent production doesn't do a 180 soon, how can he continue to get 30+ minutes per?
That line from last night was crazy....36 min. 2 points. 0 rebounds. It has to be a chemistry/confidence thing but that is way too many minutes on a night like that. Why did Bishop only get 15?

Help us out Gtmo.

I'm not Gtmo and will not even try to be. Ballock can't get his own shot. Every few games opponents back off because Z or Mahoney is hot, and then Ballock gets less attention and scores. That and just the law of averages means he is inconsistent in scoring. His value comes when his deep range pulls a defender away, and a teammate takes advantage. Ed is great, figured out DD could play with 4 fouls by guarding Ballock, who wouldn't test him. In sum, I never thought he deserved to be a pre-season all BE choice and posted his limitations on an earlier thread ranking the players by position. He's a great team player and all that, but he doesn't deserve the star treatment he gets for hitting logo shots.

He also played poorly on defense last night, allowing PC's worst offensive threat to blow by him several times and coming slow to help our bigs with Watson. My wife thought he was sick, I don't know. I think Mac wanted to pull him but O'Connell got hurt and couldn't go.

FYI, Mitchell couldn't play the second half because of his ankle so Z got way too many minutes and probably will be limited against UConn. We now have two hobbled PGs and another out for the season with an ACL. Our dumbass fans think "we don't care" or "we got overconfident" or "we overlooked an opponent" but the fact is that the injuries hit right after we ran the Hall.


When you say “allowing PC’s worst offensive threat to blow by him” who are you referring to? Breed? Lol he’s the 3rd best player on the team behind Watson and Duke.
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Postby Wizard of Westroads » Thu Jan 21, 2021 1:22 pm

Friarsfan94 wrote:When you say “allowing PC’s worst offensive threat to blow by him” who are you referring to? Breed? Lol he’s the 3rd best player on the team behind Watson and Duke.

You're right. Ballock usually gets the other team's worst threat, so I just threw that out there. Breed's good and getting better every game.
And I shouldn't have trashed Ballock so much, he did hold Horchler mostly in check.
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Re: (1) Wednesday Big East Game 1/20/21

Postby billyjack » Thu Jan 21, 2021 3:47 pm

Responding to Friars94...

Going into the game, there's no way Breed was considered the 3rd best offensive player on PC. So Creighton treating Breed as the weakest threat of the guys typically on the court was a sensible move. Breed is/was tied for like 7th with Croswell by default, below DD, NW, Reeves, Gantt, Nichols, and Horchler... and tied for 8th if Bynum is healthy...

Breed before last night had 2 threes all year, and none since Christmas... and had 1 assist and 6 turnovers... i mean, c'mon.

Besides Breed playing out of his mind, Nichols saved us by being a Swiss Army knife, and being capable of guarding Jefferson, unlike Horchler who getting torched.

I thought Jones on Creighton made some questionable decisions, tossing up some poor shots which bailed us out and hurt CU's momentum a couple-few times.
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Re: (1) Wednesday Big East Game 1/20/21

Postby Friarsfan94 » Thu Jan 21, 2021 5:43 pm

billyjack wrote:Responding to Friars94...

Going into the game, there's no way Breed was considered the 3rd best offensive player on PC. So Creighton treating Breed as the weakest threat of the guys typically on the court was a sensible move. Breed is/was tied for like 7th with Croswell by default, below DD, NW, Reeves, Gantt, Nichols, and Horchler... and tied for 8th if Bynum is healthy...

Breed before last night had 2 threes all year, and none since Christmas... and had 1 assist and 6 turnovers... i mean, c'mon.

Besides Breed playing out of his mind, Nichols saved us by being a Swiss Army knife, and being capable of guarding Jefferson, unlike Horchler who getting torched.

I thought Jones on Creighton made some questionable decisions, tossing up some poor shots which bailed us out and hurt CU's momentum a couple-few times.


He’s the only kid on the team after Watson and Duke that isn’t capped. Nichols is getting there, but still hasn’t put it together defensively. Breed can shoot, he can drive, he can pass, he can handle, he can defend. The more he plays, the more last night will show. I think that Nichols and Gantt and Reeves have been so unthreatening this year, by default the kid whose the most unknown is definitely not the “worst offensive threat” on the floor lol.
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Re: (1) Wednesday Big East Game 1/20/21

Postby FriarJ » Thu Jan 21, 2021 7:32 pm

Friarsfan94 wrote:
billyjack wrote:Responding to Friars94...

Going into the game, there's no way Breed was considered the 3rd best offensive player on PC. So Creighton treating Breed as the weakest threat of the guys typically on the court was a sensible move. Breed is/was tied for like 7th with Croswell by default, below DD, NW, Reeves, Gantt, Nichols, and Horchler... and tied for 8th if Bynum is healthy...

Breed before last night had 2 threes all year, and none since Christmas... and had 1 assist and 6 turnovers... i mean, c'mon.

Besides Breed playing out of his mind, Nichols saved us by being a Swiss Army knife, and being capable of guarding Jefferson, unlike Horchler who getting torched.

I thought Jones on Creighton made some questionable decisions, tossing up some poor shots which bailed us out and hurt CU's momentum a couple-few times.


He’s the only kid on the team after Watson and Duke that isn’t capped. Nichols is getting there, but still hasn’t put it together defensively. Breed can shoot, he can drive, he can pass, he can handle, he can defend. The more he plays, the more last night will show. I think that Nichols and Gantt and Reeves have been so unthreatening this year, by default the kid whose the most unknown is definitely not the “worst offensive threat” on the floor lol.

Neither Gantt or Nichols is capped. That's ridiculous. Breed is going to be a nice player, I love freshmen that don't have the yips and he doesn't have them.
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Re: (1) Wednesday Big East Game 1/20/21

Postby Friarsfan94 » Thu Jan 21, 2021 7:37 pm

FriarJ wrote:
Friarsfan94 wrote:
billyjack wrote:Responding to Friars94...

Going into the game, there's no way Breed was considered the 3rd best offensive player on PC. So Creighton treating Breed as the weakest threat of the guys typically on the court was a sensible move. Breed is/was tied for like 7th with Croswell by default, below DD, NW, Reeves, Gantt, Nichols, and Horchler... and tied for 8th if Bynum is healthy...

Breed before last night had 2 threes all year, and none since Christmas... and had 1 assist and 6 turnovers... i mean, c'mon.

Besides Breed playing out of his mind, Nichols saved us by being a Swiss Army knife, and being capable of guarding Jefferson, unlike Horchler who getting torched.

I thought Jones on Creighton made some questionable decisions, tossing up some poor shots which bailed us out and hurt CU's momentum a couple-few times.


He’s the only kid on the team after Watson and Duke that isn’t capped. Nichols is getting there, but still hasn’t put it together defensively. Breed can shoot, he can drive, he can pass, he can handle, he can defend. The more he plays, the more last night will show. I think that Nichols and Gantt and Reeves have been so unthreatening this year, by default the kid whose the most unknown is definitely not the “worst offensive threat” on the floor lol.

Neither Gantt or Nichols is capped. That's ridiculous. Breed is going to be a nice player, I love freshmen that don't have the yips and he doesn't have them.


There’s folding chairs that play better defense than Nichols and there’s folding chairs that play better offense than Gantt. Currently. Both have all the potential to grow, neither is going to miraculously flip the switch this season though. Is one dimensional a better word than capped?
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Re: (1) Wednesday Big East Game 1/20/21

Postby Friarsfan94 » Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:33 pm

I repeat: 3rd best on the team.
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