Growing Gap in NCAA Payouts

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Re: Growing Gap in NCAA Payouts

Postby jbarajas0490 » Mon Apr 01, 2019 9:39 pm

Well I have accepted that this league will be a tier 2 conference now. I hope I'm proven wrong but the league has graduated or lost a lot of good players the past couple years and also a couple of elite coaches, and the next guy up has not performed to that level or they were not prepared. Who knows maybe things will get better but all doom and gloom for now.
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Postby billyjack » Mon Apr 01, 2019 10:15 pm

jbarajas0490 wrote:Well I have accepted that this league will be a tier 2 conference now. I hope I'm proven wrong but the league has graduated or lost a lot of good players the past couple years and also a couple of elite coaches, and the next guy up has not performed to that level or they were not prepared. Who knows maybe things will get better but all doom and gloom for now.


Lol... Remember to mark your post as sarcasm, otherwise people might think you're serious.
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Re: Growing Gap in NCAA Payouts

Postby kayako » Mon Apr 01, 2019 11:10 pm

jbarajas0490 wrote:also a couple of elite coaches, and the next guy up has not performed to that level or they were not prepared.


You keep saying this nonsense about Xavier. Mack left them in a horrible situation, evidenced by Steele having to bring in 3 grad transfers and a humongous 2019 class. We don't know if Steele is going to be a great coach, but Mack wouldn't have done any better this past season.

Butler has the smallest basketball budget in the conference. Unless that changes, or unless they find their Mark Few, they're going to lose coaches. As long as Georgetown and Nova don't get poached, we're not a tier 2 conference. On that note, I'd like to see another program or two step up to that 3M+ level.
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Re: Growing Gap in NCAA Payouts

Postby billyjack » Mon Apr 01, 2019 11:53 pm

I'm concerned about what it means for the ACC when Buzz moves to Texas A&M. The optics are horrible for the ACC. It's a sign from Buzz that the he thinks the SEC has surpassed the ACC in stature. This borders on disaster for the ACC. Virginia Tech will sink to depths with the other dregs like Pitt, NC, The Irish, BC, etc.... just tough news for the ACC.
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Re: Growing Gap in NCAA Payouts

Postby scoscox » Tue Apr 02, 2019 12:18 am

kayako wrote:
jbarajas0490 wrote:also a couple of elite coaches, and the next guy up has not performed to that level or they were not prepared.


You keep saying this nonsense about Xavier. Mack left them in a horrible situation, evidenced by Steele having to bring in 3 grad transfers and a humongous 2019 class. We don't know if Steele is going to be a great coach, but Mack wouldn't have done any better this past season.

Butler has the smallest basketball budget in the conference. Unless that changes, or unless they find their Mark Few, they're going to lose coaches. As long as Georgetown and Nova don't get poached, we're not a tier 2 conference. On that note, I'd like to see another program or two step up to that 3M+ level.


It’s almost impossible to judge travis after 1 year on a team where he was forced to fill 5 open scholarships with three grad transfers and a walk on. Dudes just a troll
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Re: Growing Gap in NCAA Payouts

Postby zebrapoodle23 » Tue Apr 02, 2019 12:51 am

billyjack wrote:Looking at what's happened:

In the last 5 seasons (since Buzz bailed):

- only 2 of our schools have had coaches poached.
- 3 of our schools forced their coach out.
- 5 of our schools have had the same coach.

Wright, Willard, McDermott and Cooley have turned down multiple "power 5" suitors.


Serious question, which P5 schools made a serious run at Willard?
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Re: Growing Gap in NCAA Payouts

Postby Fieldhouse Flyer » Tue Apr 02, 2019 6:46 am

zebrapoodle23 wrote:
Serious question, which P5 schools made a serious run at Willard?

A bit off-topic for this thread. Moving on ...

How much money do colleges make off the NCAA tournament every year? – SB Nation - March 30, 2018
With its 21 units in 2015, the ACC became the first conference to hit the $30 million mark for one tournament, pulling in a six-year payout cycle of nearly $33 million. Last year the ACC earned 25 units, besting the conference record set by the Big East in 2009 (24), which was the most since the NCAA started the basketball distribution fund in 1991.

How Much Money Each NCAA Tournament Team Earned for Their Conference - March 26, 2018
CONFERENCE – UNITS – TOTAL PAYOUT (through Elite Eight games)

ACC – 22 units - $ 36,036,000
Big 12 – 19 units - $ 31,122,000
SEC - 15 units - $ 24,570,000
Big East - 13 units - $ 21,294,000
Big Ten – 12 units - $ 19,656,000

AAC – 5 units - $ 8,190,000
Atlantic 10 – 5 units - $ 8,190,000
Missouri Valley – 5 units - $ 8,190,000
Mountain West - 4 units - $ 6,552,000
Pac-12 - 3 units - $ 4,914,000

NCAA Tournament Money: Big Ten Gets Most, SEC Sets Own High – Ralph D. Russo, Associated Press/The Washington Post – April 1, 2019
CONFERENCE – UNITS – TOTAL PAYOUT

Big Ten - 21 units - $ 35.5 million
ACC - 20 units - $ 33.8 million
SEC - 19 units - $ 32.1 million
Big 12 - 13 units - $ 22 million

Pac-12 - 7 units - $ 11.8 million
American Athletic Conference - 7 units - $11.8 million
Big East - 5 units - $ 8.5 million
West Coast Conference - 5 units - $ 8.5 million

The big TOTAL PAYOUT drop by the Big East in 2019 is indicative of the talent and experience that was lost from the Big East after a great 2018 season.

One ‘off year’ won’t damage the Big East, but if 2020 is not a big ‘rebound year’ in the NCAA Tournament for the Big East, it will hurt the finances and prestige of Big East basketball, which in turn, may adversely affect the Big East's TV ratings and recruiting. It's seriously time to step up to the plate.
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Re: Growing Gap in NCAA Payouts

Postby GoldenWarrior11 » Tue Apr 02, 2019 8:14 am

pc5151 wrote:Its amazing how much of a loser Stever is that he has to post something negative about the Big East on every thread. Its pathetic really. Stever, F off once and for all, no one wants you on this board and you are ruining it.


Well it does show how eager he is to jump on those "Big East fans" when an opportunity presents itself. For as passionate he is about sports, he does, on occasion, let his personal views and animosity towards the Big East overshadow his statistical insights (which are always good for a read). Yesterday was very reflective of reporting today in general; when a reporter finds a piece of news that supports their opinion/viewpoint, they will immediately jump on it to support their narrative. Incredibly ironic, since we are "a bunch of Fox News fans, and are all what is wrong with America today".
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Re: Growing Gap in NCAA Payouts

Postby GoldenWarrior11 » Tue Apr 02, 2019 8:18 am

billyjack wrote:I'm concerned about what it means for the ACC when Buzz moves to Texas A&M. The optics are horrible for the ACC. It's a sign from Buzz that the he thinks the SEC has surpassed the ACC in stature. This borders on disaster for the ACC. Virginia Tech will sink to depths with the other dregs like Pitt, NC, The Irish, BC, etc.... just tough news for the ACC.


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Re: Growing Gap in NCAA Payouts

Postby billyjack » Tue Apr 02, 2019 8:25 am

zebrapoodle23 wrote:
billyjack wrote:Looking at what's happened:

In the last 5 seasons (since Buzz bailed):

- only 2 of our schools have had coaches poached.
- 3 of our schools forced their coach out.
- 5 of our schools have had the same coach.

Wright, Willard, McDermott and Cooley have turned down multiple "power 5" suitors.


Serious question, which P5 schools made a serious run at Willard?


Pitt courted Willard (his alma mater) when they hired Stallings and/or Capel.
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