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Re: An interesting trend

Postby ecasadoSBU » Sun Apr 10, 2016 1:35 pm

Bill Marsh wrote:
ecasadoSBU wrote:I don't get it. These five where all part of the P6 (BCS leagues) Big East so I don't understand how they are now considered non-P5?

1999 - UConn
2004 - UConn
2011 - UConn
2007 - Georgetown
2009 - Villanova


I think you mean 2014 UConn, not 2011 UConn.

The old Big East was a hybrid league of P6 football schools and of non-football schools. As such, Georgetown and Villanova were never members of a P6 conference.

UConn is a unique case. They joined Big East Football for the 2004-05 season Prior to that, they were a FBS independent for a few years, following a history of playing at the FCS level (like Villanova for example). UConn's Final Four NC seasons in 1998-99, 2003-04, and 20013-14 were all earned before and/or after their membership in the P6 Big East Football Conference. OTOH, their FF/NC seasons in 2008-09 and 2010-11 were earned when they were members of P6 football.

Remember that the theory is that P5, or formerly P6 programs, have had an advantage over other programs because of the added exposure and publicity that these universities receive during football season and because of the financial benefits from their football programs which enhance all sports and facilities at those universities. UConn had none of these benefits when they won their first 2 NCs in 1999 and 2004 prior to their admission to Big East Football. If anything, their investment in their football upgrade during that period was a drain on their resources. The argument could be made that they were still receiving benefits from football in 2014, but the fact is that they were no longer in a P6 program at that point.


There is a misunderstanding here. The Big East was viewed as a Power 6 overall. The term was not solely football based as it is now. I understand Villanova/Georgetown were not football members of the league, but the league was collectively seen as one of the Power-6 conference (or am I wrong? maybe I am...). There was no distinction of the Power6 term being only used for the football programs of the league. It was one league and the league as a whole was a Power-6 conference. So the bottom line is that there isn't any more parity in College Basketball than there is now because these programs were part of a Power-6 league
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