Creighton's Italy Trip

[stever20]

true- just 6/23 is only 26%, so it's even worse than last season.

One thing that is fun is the ability to look at stats.
1st half- they were only 3-8 from 3 point range. They were 20-31 from 2 point range. So 8/39 attempts from 3 point range which is only 20.5%. Last year they took 42.7% shots from 3 point range.
2nd half they were 3-15 from 3 point range. They were 22-33 from 2 point range. So 15/48 attempts from 3 point range which is still only 31.3%.

So at least for 1 game, they weren't taking anywhere near as many 3's as they did last year. Obviously some of that is the fact they had 25 steals, so several of those led to easy layups.

The by far best thing seeing is they only allowed 4-27 from 3 point range. Obviously look at the competition, but still, for a team that allowed 38% from 3 point range(#324 in the country), allowing only 4-27 is a plus.

[Jet915]

Based on the practices so far, this team is alot more athletic. McDermott looks to employ a more pressing defense this year compared to past years.

[stever20]

Based on the practices so far, this team is alot more athletic. McDermott looks to employ a more pressing defense this year compared to past years.

The stats I quoted kind of back this up. Less reliance on the 3, guarding the 3 better, getting 25 steals. what was it 42 points off of turnovers.

I think pressing is something with the new rules we're going to see a whole lot more this season.

[Omaha1]

Let's be real clear on this past game. It was the equivalent of a summer league game against a poor foreign high school team. Stats are completely meaningless and trying to glean any information on the Jays from this performance would be a waste of your energy.

[stever20]

Let's be real clear on this past game. It was the equivalent of a summer league game against a poor foreign high school team. Stats are completely meaningless and trying to glean any information on the Jays from this performance would be a waste of your energy.

I agree with you a good bit- but I would say that only taking 23/87 shots from 3 point range is a pretty large departure. Only 26.4%. Consider in all your games last year, you never shot less than 30.8% of your shots as 3 pointers, with 5 games over 50% of the shots being 3's. 2/3 of the games you shot 40% plus 3's. So it's a pretty big departure.

[gtmoBlue]

As one in the minority over on the CU boards, i suggested the Jays take fewer 3s this season.
At least until they show the ability to consistently hit a decent percentage rate (hi 30's to mid 40's).
Many Jays fans are still enamored with the Wragge/DMD hi efficiency offense of 2 years ago. Times and
personnel have changed. An effective 2 pt offense, with driving, pick & pops, offensive rebounding, 2nd chance
putbacks, and FT shooting, is the mode of this season.

[stever20]

As one in the minority over on the CU boards, i suggested the Jays take fewer 3s this season.
At least until they show the ability to consistently hit a decent percentage rate (hi 30's to mid 40's).
Many Jays fans are still enamored with the Wragge/DMD hi efficiency offense of 2 years ago. Times and
personnel have changed. An effective 2 pt offense, with driving, pick & pops, offensive rebounding, 2nd chance
putbacks, and FT shooting, is the mode of this season.

I was wondering if that would be the case. And I can just imagine if Creighton does go away from the 3 some, if they struggle, if a good bit of the fanbase would be like you see, we should have stuck with shooting all the 3's.

[gtmoBlue]

Jays fanbase is like most other fan bases (well...perhaps a bit More spoiled than most), but a fanbase none-the-less. They will bitch just to hear themselves talk. Sort of like Stever.

Most are conservative, entrenched in their Jays community standing and basketball position - most would never advocate change, as to do so involves work. Not gonna happen. It is just too easy and convenient to stand back, strike a good pose, and criticize. They will complain regardless - win or lose. Such is life.

[GumbyDamnit!]

Nova certainly won't be upset if any Creighton team consciously decides to shoot less 3's. Still a little shell-shocked by getting Wraggeed.

[handdownmandown]

Gtmo has no idea what he is talking about. Our # of threes may or may not be down; it isn't anything that is known by anyone at this point as far as I know. It would not surprise me if it does a little for the simple fact that we have more of an ability to take it to the rack, but there's been no talk of a philosophy change at all.

This is, however, something Gtmo has been on us to do for awhile. So be forewarned. To him this is direct evidence.