More Realignment on the Way?

[Bill Marsh]

I'll believe it when I see it.
Why would ND give up its independence in football (one of it's greatest assets) to join the ACC? It's already has a back door into the College Football Playoffs.

That back door into the playoffs will almost always require that they go undefeated whereas winning the ACC championship with 1or2 losses gives them more. direct access to a playoff spot.

[marquette]

Que sera sera. I'm not really sure how this affects us other than possibly taking UConn of the table (which it was basically never on any way).

[chuck1991]

I'll believe it when I see it.
Why would ND give up its independence in football (one of it's greatest assets) to join the ACC? It's already has a back door into the College Football Playoffs.

That back door into the playoffs will almost always require that they go undefeated whereas winning the ACC championship with 1or2 losses gives them more. direct access to a playoff spot.

This is conjecture and also untrue.

[NJRedman]

I'll believe it when I see it.
Why would ND give up its independence in football (one of it's greatest assets) to join the ACC? It's already has a back door into the College Football Playoffs. It's also affiliated already, meaning that it can play teams like FSU, Clemson, and GT without having to play teams like NC State, UNC, and BC on a regular basis. Right now ND has its cake and gets to eat it too.

They have a storied history of playing BC, it's called the Holy War since they are the only two catholic schools who play at the highest level of college football.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_War_% ... re_Dame%29

[Bill Marsh]

I'll believe it when I see it.
Why would ND give up its independence in football (one of it's greatest assets) to join the ACC? It's already has a back door into the College Football Playoffs.

That back door into the playoffs will almost always require that they go undefeated whereas winning the ACC championship with 1or2 losses gives them more. direct access to a playoff spot.

This is conjecture and also untrue.

Just about everything we post is opinion and conjecture.

What is certainly not untrue is the fact that Notre Dame can NOT get to 13 games as an independent. We saw what the lack of the 13th game did to the Big XII champ this year. As I said ,t will ALMOST always do the same thing to an independent Notre Dame.

Whether that's true or not doesn't really matter. What matters is if Notre Dame BELIEVES that the risk is sufficiently large enough for their decision to be tipped toward putting their football program in a conference. I don't know the answer to that one, but I certainly wouldn't be surprised if the ND answer is that the time has come.

Times change. There was a time when Notre Dame wouldn't send their football team to a bowl game. But then they did. There was a. Time when Notre Dame wasn't putting any of their sports in a conference. But then they did. There was a time when the Big Ten and others refused to play a post season basketball tournament. But then they did. In fact, everyone but the Ivy League does now.

Notre Dame under the current administration has never said that they wouldn't put their football team in a conference under any circumstances. They've said they're monitoring the landscape, that the circumstances would have to be such that they really had no other choice. Maybe they're there.

[NJRedman]

Just about everything we post is opinion and conjecture.

What is certainly not untrue is the fact that Notre Dame can NOT get to 13 games as an independent. We saw what the lack of the 13th game did to the Big XII champ this year. As I said ,t will ALMOST always do the same thing to an independent Notre Dame.

Whether that's true or not doesn't really matter. What matters is if Notre Dame BELIEVES that the risk is sufficiently large enough for their decision to be tipped toward putting their football program in a conference. I don't know the answer to that one, but I certainly wouldn't be surprised if the ND answer is that the time has come.

Times change. There was a time when Notre Dame wouldn't send their football team to a bowl game. But then they did. There was a. Time when Notre Dame wasn't putting any of their sports in a conference. But then they did. There was a time when the Big Ten and others refused to play a post season basketball tournament. But then they did. In fact, everyone but the Ivy League does now.

Notre Dame under the current administration has never said that they wouldn't put their football team in a conference under any circumstances. They've said they're monitoring the landscape, that the circumstances would have to be such that they really had no other choice. Maybe they're there.

Well you have to look at what would happen if this did go down. The B1G now isn't saving them a spot and wait until the GoR is almost up and start poaching the ACC again.

[marquette]

Just a thought, if Notre Dame decides to go all in on a conference, why the ACC? The B1G is a better fit, more money, etc. Maybe they think they can be to the ACC what Texas is to the Big 12? I'm just thinking, isn't the reason they went with the ACC over any other conference (and the Big East originally) that they didn't have to put their football team in the conference? Maybe the tv contract has something to do with it, but I honestly don't see ND's payout being higher than the B1G in the next tv go-round.

[chuck1991]

What is certainly not untrue is the fact that Notre Dame can NOT get to 13 games as an independent.

Well they could schedule Hawaii, but I don't see that helping/happening.

[Make Your Bones]

Just a thought, if Notre Dame decides to go all in on a conference, why the ACC? The B1G is a better fit, more money, etc. Maybe they think they can be to the ACC what Texas is to the Big 12? I'm just thinking, isn't the reason they went with the ACC over any other conference (and the Big East originally) that they didn't have to put their football team in the conference? Maybe the tv contract has something to do with it, but I honestly don't see ND's payout being higher than the B1G in the next tv go-round.

No idea if this is a legit source to begin with, but I think the ACC makes the most sense for that "be like Texas" reason. The B1G shares revenue equally (which is why Nebraska originally moved from Texas's Big 12), and a major reason for keeping ND independent is that lucrative contract with NBC that they do not want to share with anyone.

[chuck1991]

Just a thought, if Notre Dame decides to go all in on a conference, why the ACC? The B1G is a better fit, more money, etc. Maybe they think they can be to the ACC what Texas is to the Big 12? I'm just thinking, isn't the reason they went with the ACC over any other conference (and the Big East originally) that they didn't have to put their football team in the conference? Maybe the tv contract has something to do with it, but I honestly don't see ND's payout being higher than the B1G in the next tv go-round.

A century of bad blood plus a belief that ND would rather recruit in Atlantic states/Florida than the midwest.