Seton Hall to become 7th ranked team this season

[SJHooper]

Happy for SHU to be relevant nationally again, but I feel like all of our rankings will be/were short-lived except Nova. SHU is the kind of team that will win 2 ranked games in a row then lose to DePaul. Same with my Johnnies. We just don't have that consistency. The problem is that only Nova has staying power. Others are just hot for a week or two then fade. This is an example where parity kills us. Everyone is going to get each other all bloodied and there won't be any pretty records except likely Nova by season's end. I find it funny that SHU's recruits were also on SJU's radar. Imagine SJU with Delgado, Carrington, and Whitehead in addition to Obekpa, D'Lo, etc.? Now that might have been a team with some staying power to truly rival Nova.

At this point even an NCAA berth is beginning to look dim for SJU.

[hoyahooligan]

Going to be an interesting new rankings this week. #'s 20-25 all lost this week. But all of the teams who beat them either were already ranked or were not receiving any votes at all.

St. John's at #15 lost twice, but hopefully they stay in the rankings just because so many other teams lost below them.

#26 TCU also lost this week.

#27 VCU should enter the polls unless they lose @ Fordham tomorrow (not likely)

#28 San Diego St is down 34-19 at the half @ Fresno St. If they lose they likely don't get ranked. With a win they're the next to climb in.

#29 Arkansas has the next most votes but only 27 compared to the 140 #25 Georgetown had so a big climb

#30 is a tie between LSU, GW, and ODU all with 7 pts. Teams don't tend to shoot up the votes unless they have a big win.

Seton Hall will definitely be in, but there's a lot of potential spots to fill and not a lot of resume's begging to be included so some of the people in 20-25 may just hold on to a spot due to lack of better options. I think St. John's will stay in for that reason.


#21 Washington, #22 Baylor hold on to their spots but fall in the rankings.

Seton Hall, VCU, Arkansas enter the rankings. The last spot in the rankings likely goes to SDSU if they win if not one of #20 Ohio St, #23 N. Iowa, #24 Colorado St, and #25 Georgetown who all would likely fall out hangs onto their spot.

[stever20]

Going to be an interesting new rankings this week. #'s 20-25 all lost this week. But all of the teams who beat them either were already ranked or were not receiving any votes at all.

St. John's at #15 lost twice, but hopefully they stay in the rankings just because so many other teams lost below them.

#26 TCU also lost this week.

#27 VCU should enter the polls unless they lose @ Fordham tomorrow (not likely)

#28 San Diego St is down 34-19 at the half @ Fresno St. If they lose they likely don't get ranked. With a win they're the next to climb in.

#29 Arkansas has the next most votes but only 27 compared to the 140 #25 Georgetown had so a big climb

#30 is a tie between LSU, GW, and ODU all with 7 pts. Teams don't tend to shoot up the votes unless they have a big win.

Seton Hall will definitely be in, but there's a lot of potential spots to fill and not a lot of resume's begging to be included so some of the people in 20-25 may just hold on to a spot due to lack of better options. I think St. John's will stay in for that reason.


#21 Washington, #22 Baylor hold on to their spots but fall in the rankings.

Seton Hall, VCU, Arkansas enter the rankings. The last spot in the rankings likely goes to SDSU if they win if not one of #20 Ohio St, #23 N. Iowa, #24 Colorado St, and #25 Georgetown who all would likely fall out hangs onto their spot.

I wonder with St John's if the leave of absence with Jordan would play a part in the voting as well.

[TheBall]

Georgetown's loss actually would not have been viewed as that bad, but then xavier lost to the team that shall not be named....... and now georgetown's loss on wednesday looks terrible.

[ivet]

Georgetown's loss actually would not have been viewed as that bad, but then xavier lost to the team that shall not be named....... and now georgetown's loss on wednesday looks terrible.

Looks like my Hoya's are out. Better call it quits for the rest of season.

Also, no one else lose to Xavier or Marquette...lose To any of those two and/or DePaul-Kiss your tourney chances goodbye. We should cancel the rest of the season just to be safe.

[butlerway]

Wouldn't be surprised to see Butler back in. They have 3 wins over current top 25 teams (UNC, Georgetown, St. Johns), all away from home (tied with Virginia for most top 25 wins away from home). 4 losses but none of them are bad: Oklahoma (neutral), Tennessee (away), Indiana (neutral), Villanova (away). I don't see any way they aren't top 30 right now. Will be close if they are top 25.

[PhillyPirate]

Wouldn't be surprised to see Butler back in. They have 3 wins over current top 25 teams (UNC, Georgetown, St. Johns), all away from home (tied with Virginia for most top 25 wins away from home). 4 losses but none of them are bad: Oklahoma (neutral), Tennessee (away), Indiana (neutral), Villanova (away). I don't see any way they aren't top 30 right now. Will be close if they are top 25.

Problem is there is a good chance that St Johns falls out of the top 25 for starting 0-2 with a loss at home. So that win dosent look as good for Butler or SHU for that matter

[stever20]

Wouldn't be surprised to see Butler back in. They have 3 wins over current top 25 teams (UNC, Georgetown, St. Johns), all away from home (tied with Virginia for most top 25 wins away from home). 4 losses but none of them are bad: Oklahoma (neutral), Tennessee (away), Indiana (neutral), Villanova (away). I don't see any way they aren't top 30 right now. Will be close if they are top 25.

Problem is there is a good chance that St Johns falls out of the top 25 for starting 0-2 with a loss at home. So that win dosent look as good for Butler or SHU for that matter

Not only that- but Georgetown will be out of the top 25 as well with their loss to Xavier. So really only the UNC win looks great right now. Also the 4 losses is quite a bit at this point.

[TheBall]

I don't think it is a given that both georgetown and st johns fall out of the top 25. Gary Parrish just released his top 25 and has nova 7, seton hall in the teens, and butler and St. John's in the top 25.

[HoosierPal]

Let's concentrate on end of year rankings rather than Nov/Dec rankings, which mean nothing. Florida and UCLA both were preseason Top 25 in some polls. They aren't even top 100 now . It really matters where you are at the end of the journey.