OOC games to watch Thu 3/13

[HoosierPal]

SMU's loss hurts, but will it really drop the #25 team in the nation from a 9/10 projected seed to not making it? My guess is they'll be a 13 seed.

No way to sugar coat this, losing to Houston is a bad loss but it is not devastating. The Mustangs finish as 25-9, and a 4-5 Top 50 Record and for now an RPI of 45. That's not a bad hand of cards to hold when playing poker with the other bubble teams. Likely they stay in the field in the Last Four In.

RPI actually 52 not 45. Also they are 23-9 not 25-9.

Depends on where you look. CBS still has them at 45. NCAA hasn't updated their RPI since Monday.

[stever20]

Ohio St beats Purdue- likely clinching a spot for Nebraska...
Pitt blows out Wake- they should be safe now
Arizona crushes Utah- Stopping any chance of Utah getting in.
Dayton beats Fordham- makes the Dayton/St Joe's game a play in for sure, and the loser will wait(but likely will be in)

Kind of a so-so day on the bubble for Big East teams. Don't think St John's has much of a shot getting in now. Xavier if they lose would get in by a chin.

[stever20]

45 was at the start of the day..

[LeMoyne00]

I think Villanova blew any chance at a #1. This 5 point loss by St John's has thrown them off the bubble now. Providence can't afford a loss to a 160 RPI Seton Hall tomorrow or that will hurt them depending on what happens in other conferences. Also, Seton Hall needs to win out I think to get in - I'm not sold on them yet - they are like UConn a few years back when they needed to win the conference to get in. I think if Xavier loses tonight, they need help from other conferences to get in too.

[Bill Marsh]

SMU's loss hurts, but will it really drop the #25 team in the nation from a 9/10 projected seed to not making it? My guess is they'll be a 13 seed.

No way to sugar coat this, losing to Houston is a bad loss but it is not devastating. The Mustangs finish as 25-9, and a 4-5 Top 50 Record and for now an RPI of 45. That's not a bad hand of cards to hold when playing poker with the other bubble teams. Likely they stay in the field in the Last Four In.

Not devastating? It certainly could be. They now have an RPI of 53 on Live-RPI and 3 terrible losses:

145 - Houston
176 - Temple
225 - South Florida

As problematic as their bad losses is their road/neutral court record where they were a .500 team (8-8),they simply were not the same dominant team when they weren't in their own gym. The committee wants to pick teams who will play well in the tournament. They were 1-5 vs teams in the top 100 away from their home court. That doesn't project well for their ability to compete in the tournament and it's not what the committee is looking for.

[stever20]

SMU's loss hurts, but will it really drop the #25 team in the nation from a 9/10 projected seed to not making it? My guess is they'll be a 13 seed.

No way to sugar coat this, losing to Houston is a bad loss but it is not devastating. The Mustangs finish as 25-9, and a 4-5 Top 50 Record and for now an RPI of 45. That's not a bad hand of cards to hold when playing poker with the other bubble teams. Likely they stay in the field in the Last Four In.

Not devastating? It certainly could be. They now have an RPI of 53 on Live-RPI and 3 terrible losses:

145 - Houston
176 - Temple
225 - South Florida

As problematic as their bad losses is their road/neutral court record where they were a .500 team (8-8),they simply were not the same dominant team when they weren't in their own gym. The committee wants to pick teams who will play well in the tournament. They were 1-5 vs teams in the top 100 away from their home court. That doesn't project well for their ability to compete in the tournament and it's not what the committee is looking for.

a lot of teams aren't good away from home. I mean for gosh sakes Providence is only 8-8 away from home. Xavier is 5-9 away from home- including 2 bad losses. Their only 2 wins away from home of note- @ St Johns, and neutral vs Cincy(wonder how the committee would view that). Everything else was against a sub .500 team.- DePaul, Butler, and Alabama.

[Bill Marsh]

No way to sugar coat this, losing to Houston is a bad loss but it is not devastating. The Mustangs finish as 25-9, and a 4-5 Top 50 Record and for now an RPI of 45. That's not a bad hand of cards to hold when playing poker with the other bubble teams. Likely they stay in the field in the Last Four In.

Not devastating? It certainly could be. They now have an RPI of 53 on Live-RPI and 3 terrible losses:

145 - Houston
176 - Temple
225 - South Florida

As problematic as their bad losses is their road/neutral court record where they were a .500 team (8-8),they simply were not the same dominant team when they weren't in their own gym. The committee wants to pick teams who will play well in the tournament. They were 1-5 vs teams in the top 100 away from their home court. That doesn't project well for their ability to compete in the tournament and it's not what the committee is looking for.

a lot of teams aren't good away from home. I mean for gosh sakes Providence is only 8-8 away from home. Xavier is 5-9 away from home- including 2 bad losses. Their only 2 wins away from home of note- @ St Johns, and neutral vs Cincy(wonder how the committee would view that). Everything else was against a sub .500 team.- DePaul, Butler, and Alabama.

Now factor in SMU's SOS away from home for goodness sake. Providence's worst loss away from home was to #84 Marquette. SMU lost to South Florida, Houston, and Temple. There's no comparison.

Then look at top 100 wins away from home. SMU has a good one - UConn. But that's it. Providence has 3 - St. John's twice and LaSalle. So, that's 3 good road wins and no bad losses for PC vs 1 very good win and 3 bad losses for SMU.

Advantage: Providence.

[stever20]

LaSalle may wind up not being a top 100 win(they're 98 right now). 2 decent ones vs St John's against 1 top 25 possibly vs UConn...

Now, vs Xavier(which I think is more likely battle)- I think it's not as clear cut at all.

[ruechalgrin]

If the committee is consistent, SMU is last 4 in at best and probably out.

4-6 top 100 and only 1 road/neutral top 100 win. 19-2 101+, are you kidding me 21 games 101+. OOC SOS 291!?!?! 9-9 Road/Neutral. They should be punished for their absolute horrific OOC scheduling; 1 top 100 R/N Win (2nd best R/N is Wyoming Away, then Texas A&M neutral); only 4 top 100 wins; playing only 10 top 100 teams. Just as a comparison Dayton, has 10 top 100 wins (10-6) and Xavier has 8 top 100 wins (8-8). If Dayton and Xavier are not seeded above SMU, it is a joke.

[ta111]

If the committee is consistent, SMU is last 4 in at best and probably out.

4-6 top 100 and only 1 road/neutral top 100 win. 19-2 101+, are you kidding me 21 games 101+. OOC SOS 291!?!?! 9-9 Road/Neutral. They should be punished for their absolute horrific OOC scheduling; 1 top 100 R/N Win (2nd best R/N is Wyoming Away, then Texas A&M neutral); only 4 top 100 wins; playing only 10 top 100 teams. Just as a comparison Dayton, has 10 top 100 wins (10-6) and Xavier has 8 top 100 wins (8-8). If Dayton and Xavier are not seeded above SMU, it is a joke.

Dayton has a much better resume than SMU. Xavier also has a better resume. If SMU is a tournament team then Dayton is a 5 seed. I don't think SMU is getting in. The committee has said many times that if you don't schedule tough teams in the OOC you will be punished.