What to make of 3-8?

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Re: What to make of 3-8?

Postby MackNova » Fri Feb 07, 2014 1:17 am

St. John's: 10-8
Xavier: 9-9
Providence: 9-9
Seton Hall: 9-9
Georgetown: 7-11
Marquette: 7-11

That's what I got looking at remaining schedules. Sad part is that's the Big East's worst case scenario basically. Would give the Big East 3 bubble teams in SJU, PC and X. Think SJU and X's resumes would be ever so slightly better than PC's. SHU and MU have no chance. Georgetown wouldn't at 7-11 either, though I think if they go 9-9, they are a lock.
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Re: What to make of 3-8?

Postby Bill Marsh » Fri Feb 07, 2014 2:07 am

MackNova wrote:St. John's: 10-8
Xavier: 9-9
Providence: 9-9
Seton Hall: 9-9
Georgetown: 7-11
Marquette: 7-11

That's what I got looking at remaining schedules. Sad part is that's the Big East's worst case scenario basically. Would give the Big East 3 bubble teams in SJU, PC and X. Think SJU and X's resumes would be ever so slightly better than PC's. SHU and MU have no chance. Georgetown wouldn't at 7-11 either, though I think if they go 9-9, they are a lock.


Wow! You're suggesting that St. John's is going to go 6-2 the rest of the way. Assuming a road loss to Villanova, that means that they're going to have to beat either Creighton at home or Marquette on the road, neither of which I expect them to do.You're also assuming that they can go into Seton Hall and win one there despite the fact that Seton Hall has been playing pretty well lately. You further assume that they win every close game they are likely to find themselves in at home like Georgetown and Butler.

It could happen, but it will take everything breaking right for them to accomplish all that.
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Re: What to make of 3-8?

Postby SJUREDMEN85 » Fri Feb 07, 2014 5:48 am

Bill Marsh wrote:
MackNova wrote:St. John's: 10-8
Xavier: 9-9
Providence: 9-9
Seton Hall: 9-9
Georgetown: 7-11
Marquette: 7-11

That's what I got looking at remaining schedules. Sad part is that's the Big East's worst case scenario basically. Would give the Big East 3 bubble teams in SJU, PC and X. Think SJU and X's resumes would be ever so slightly better than PC's. SHU and MU have no chance. Georgetown wouldn't at 7-11 either, though I think if they go 9-9, they are a lock.


Wow! You're suggesting that St. John's is going to go 6-2 the rest of the way. Assuming a road loss to Villanova, that means that they're going to have to beat either Creighton at home or Marquette on the road, neither of which I expect them to do.You're also assuming that they can go into Seton Hall and win one there despite the fact that Seton Hall has been playing pretty well lately. You further assume that they win every close game they are likely to find themselves in at home like Georgetown and Butler.

It could happen, but it will take everything breaking right for them to accomplish all that.


Bill, lets go game by game
Vs. Creighton - we erased an 18pnts deficit in the 2nd half @ their house, they won`t be getting an 18pnt lead at MSG, Jordan`s (18pnts, 6assists @ PC) is playing much better and starting to hit his jumper and CO has improved, them two are the difference. I think we get Creighton at MSG.
@ SHU - We were up 17 before almost choking it away, but they`ve improved alot since then. Thinking we can get that. 2-0
Vs. G-Town - They embarrassed the hell out of us at their house, this game makes me nervous since they have our number.
50/50
Vs. Butler - Should win that
@ Nova - I feel we match up against them, but if they hit their threes then it will be a long day. We kept it close with them until the end when we stopped hitting our shots. If we don`t go cold we could hang with them all game.
50/50
I feel we`ll win both vs X and DePaul at the Garden.
@ Marq - Had the lead up to 26pnts, Marquette isn`t Marq this year. They`ll give us a good battle but think we can take this as well.
That`s 6-0 which puts us at 10-6, 21-9.
I think SJU will beat CU because we`re on fire and this is the juniors biggest game of them being at SJU.

with 6-0 I`d gladly take a split with G-Town and Nova which puts us at 11-7, 22-9. That put us in even before the B.E. Tournament.
Even at 6-2 but beating either CU or Nova, we can still get in if we reach Saturday night.
5-3 or 6-2 without beating either then it`s a giving, gotta win the B.E.

our last 6 games: Had a 17pnt lead vs SHU, Were up 22 @ Butler before winning by 17, was down by 18 @ CU before evening it up, but then losing to Doug, Was up 26 vs Marq, and 23 up @ PC. Besides that CU game, we had a lead of atleast 17 in every game since the SHU game which is why i think they`re on a mission.
This is what I was exactly expecting this season which is why I was so disgusted in January, but better late then never right
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Re: What to make of 3-8?

Postby MackNova » Fri Feb 07, 2014 7:44 pm

Bill Marsh wrote:
MackNova wrote:St. John's: 10-8
Xavier: 9-9
Providence: 9-9
Seton Hall: 9-9
Georgetown: 7-11
Marquette: 7-11

That's what I got looking at remaining schedules. Sad part is that's the Big East's worst case scenario basically. Would give the Big East 3 bubble teams in SJU, PC and X. Think SJU and X's resumes would be ever so slightly better than PC's. SHU and MU have no chance. Georgetown wouldn't at 7-11 either, though I think if they go 9-9, they are a lock.


Wow! You're suggesting that St. John's is going to go 6-2 the rest of the way. Assuming a road loss to Villanova, that means that they're going to have to beat either Creighton at home or Marquette on the road, neither of which I expect them to do.You're also assuming that they can go into Seton Hall and win one there despite the fact that Seton Hall has been playing pretty well lately. You further assume that they win every close game they are likely to find themselves in at home like Georgetown and Butler.

It could happen, but it will take everything breaking right for them to accomplish all that.

I did it really quickly just to see what I came out with. I did have Butler and DePaul losing the majority of their games. On paper, that makes sense. Not sure that will actually be the case, but I didn't go in-depth to look at situations and things like that. Just went "Seton Hall: Loss-Win-Win, etc"
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