Bad Day for AAC

[stever20]

I completely disagree with you. That aac deal is terrible. Heavy doses of espnu and espn news games. Only games with memphis and uconn (and this year louisville) get on the main network.

I am not one of the aac haters on this board. I think they will have a couple teams rise above and make the tournament every year the way cincy did out of old conference usa. I think uconn stays in the national eye, and that memphis remains good (cincy is iffy, and temple appears to be in serious trouble). But make no mistake about it, we are VERY fortunate to have split off from that mess. It really is a disaster in terms of money and exposure.

I watched xavier v butler on television today. I enjoyed it. You must have missed it.

Xavier/Butler was on a regional sports network. Here in DC couldn't get it.

I know looked last year's tv deal vs this year.. For UConn, USF, and Cincy- they have the same number of ESPN games- but now, instead of RSN games, all of those games are now broadcast nationally- yes on ESPNU or ESPNews. I'd rather be on those than a RSN 100% of the time. If you look at it objectively it's a good deal for them exposure wise. Money not so much.

[Friarfan2]

I had the butler/xavier game on some fox channel right in the cluster of fox sports/espn/ nbc sports stations in the low 200's today. I watched it and enjoyed it. I have had every game televised this year except for a couple of those preseason tournament games (I'm temprorarily in california right now and get every game). And we have fox advertising our games during the world series and nfl playoffs.

On to the aac, I think that deal is horrendous. Like I said, espn has so much inventory it is a complete overflow. They aren't being hyped as prime games, they are buried on internet streams, and they have espnu and espn news games.

You are entitled to your opinion, but I think being fourth or fifth fiddle on espn is pretty bad. I know espn is bigger than fox right now, but they are really burried on espn and are getting no marketing or hype.

I do think uconn will continue to get their exposure. I do not think games not involving uconn or memphis will receive much exposure.

And one thing I am sure you agree with me on: thank god we split from that mess!!!! Lol

[stever20]

I had the butler/xavier game on some fox channel right in the cluster of fox sports/espn/ nbc sports stations in the low 200's today. I watched it and enjoyed it. I have had every game televised this year except for a couple of those preseason tournament games (I'm temprorarily in california right now and get every game). And we have fox advertising our games during the world series and nfl playoffs.

On to the aac, I think that deal is horrendous. Like I said, espn has so much inventory it is a complete overflow. They aren't being hyped as prime games, they are buried on internet streams, and they have espnu and espn news games.

You are entitled to your opinion, but I think being fourth or fifth fiddle on espn is pretty bad. I know espn is bigger than fox right now, but they are really burried on espn and are getting no marketing or hype.

I do think uconn will continue to get their exposure. I do not think games not involving uconn or memphis will receive much exposure.

And one thing I am sure you agree with me on: thank god we split from that mess!!!! Lol

NONE of their games are buried on internet streams. 0 AAC games are ESPN3 exclusive. 0. Like I said, I'd rather be on ESPNu and ESPN news than on regional sport networks.

FS1 is still a huge gamble to me. IF they don't get Big 10 or NBA- they won't be able to come close to challenging ESPN. And, if they did get those 2- we're going to fall down the list for Fox. Fox isn't dropping UFC. We'd be seeing a lot more of our games on FS2 or FSN- and that's worse than ESPNU or ESPN News.

[Friarfan2]

I completely disagree.

[stever20]

I completely disagree.

what you would rather be on RSN's? I wouldn't. ESPNU and ESPN News are in a lot of homes.

[whiteandblue77]

I'm thrilled with FS1, their coverage and advertising of the Big East and their programming and shows (except UFC and nascar). I really hate EsPN's shows and everything but SC. The one thing I wish FS1 had is a better website. The format is awful, so I have to go to ESPN.com for all the info and schedules and scores and such.

[Friarfan2]

Stever,

If you really think that it is even remotely close, that you would even call it equal, to be on espn news and espnu rather than be the prime ticket on fox sports, then we are so far apart in our thinking that it is not really worth discussing. I'm not copping out here, I respect you as a poster, but we are obviously so far apart so why bother discussing it?

We are the main event on fox. And most of those games are on fs1, not rsns (and I get all the rsns right next to fs1 and fs2 and espn anyway). We are the primary focus of their marketing, get the best crews, and have incredible cross network/sport advertising.

Aac is an espn afterthought, burried on espn news, espn u, and espn internet streams (I get that their conference games are on espn news, but a third of their schedule was internet stream only).

It is not even close. If you think it is, then I will accuse you of buyer's remorse and caution/uncertainty about our future than clear thinking.

I'm not expecting to change your mind, because you clearly aren't thinking straight. The aac media exposure is terrible. Their out of conference games are internet stream only, their in conference games are on espn news, they receive no network media hype or support. It really is horrendous.

We are in incredible shape. We are being hyped all over all of fox's major product, and we are taking front stage on their sports programming.

And fox doesn't need the nba. The nba is killing espn. I am glad that fox is committed to college basketball.

[Chalmers0]

Not to be the bearer of bad news, but ESPNU gets more viewers than FS1 for college basketball games.

Not saying I don't want FS1 to succeed or that FS1 will get more in the long run, just stating facts as it shows right now.

[Friarfan2]

Espn news and espn u rarely pull a 0.20 rating. They are usually 0.10 or 0.00. Syracuse v nova was their only game above 400k viewers last year(600k), and something like 80% of their games were below 100k viewers

Not that fox sports is killing the ratings now, but at least the effort is there. They are marketing the crap out of the league and the games, and fox has a proven track record for media ventures. We might only be pulling 100k viewers now, but the potential to grow is there.

It really is not at all comparable. For teams not named uconn or memphis, that exposure is similar to any other mid-major.

Being burried on espn news and having a third of your games internet stream only = terrible
Being the main event on fox sports = fantastic

I find it unfathomable that anyone looking at this objectively would rather be on espn news like a crappy mid major league rather than be the center piece for fox's new media venture (you know, the se company that made fx news double cnn's ratings)

[Jet915]

Not to be the bearer of bad news, but ESPNU gets more viewers than FS1 for college basketball games.

Not saying I don't want FS1 to succeed or that FS1 will get more in the long run, just stating facts as it shows right now.

The main reason for that is that the games are better on ESPNU. ESPN pretty much can show any game from any conference except for the few owned by Fox (Big East, Conference USA). So while we are showing Big East games against NJIT and Manchester, they are showing marquee matchups. FS1 makes up for it a little because they are in 90 million homes compared to 70 million...