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Re: Temple to drop 7 sports, including baseball

Postby stever20 » Sun Dec 08, 2013 9:33 pm

if UConn didn't have the football or aspirations to join Big Ten/ACC- they'd be a no brainer. But the fact is they do and they have those aspirations.
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Postby ElDonBDon » Sun Dec 08, 2013 11:52 pm

I think this is a good move. I wish they would drop football. It's such a drain. You will never sell out the Link, not even close. You will never be the SEC. Temple had a decent football coach that had a couple of decent seasons and then he immediately jumps ship.

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Re: Temple to drop 7 sports, including baseball

Postby IamJack » Mon Dec 09, 2013 1:55 am

ElDonBDon wrote:I think this is a good move. I wish they would drop football. It's such a drain. You will never sell out the Link, not even close. You will never be the SEC. Temple had a decent football coach that had a couple of decent seasons and then he immediately jumps ship.

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I want no part of TU even if they did drop FB. Lets focus our magic on convincing the Huskies to drop it and join
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Re: Temple to drop 7 sports, including baseball

Postby TheHall » Mon Dec 09, 2013 10:30 am

Reaction rolls in on Temple cuts (Philly Inquirer)

Temple folks also bent too far backward to stress this had nothing to do with football. Football shouldn't be blamed for this. If there was no football at Temple, money would not magically appear for these other sports. Untrue and unfair to the football players, who are under enough pressure. And please don't suggest Temple should drop down a level. Those schools lose more money. There is TV money coming in thanks to football."

However, to suggest football provides revenue for other sports, as Temple administrators did - football doesn't pay for itself, how can it pay for anything else? (OK, some of the apparel and sponsorship money would go away without football, but how much did other sports really benefit financially from any of that? Not enough, apparently.)

"Football runs the show in athletics, financially,'' Temple president Neil D. Theobald told me in August. He meant nationwide, and that if revenues are to improve - if Temple is ever to stop losing $7 million annually on athletics - the only path to profitability is through football. Whether Temple can ever get there is the highly questionable part. Will the Atlantic Coast Conference get its own television network running and someday decide it wants Philadelphia cable sets involved? Who knows?

http://articles.philly.com/2013-12-08/sports/44946955_1_new-boathouse-temple-baseball-and-softball



I could see many schools in a similar situation going forward....Looking at you guys in Storrs.
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Re: Temple to drop 7 sports, including baseball

Postby Bill Marsh » Mon Dec 09, 2013 1:11 pm

ChelseaFriar wrote:
Bill Marsh wrote:I wonder what killed Providence baseball back in the '90's in the very year when it was Big East champions?


Answer:

http://www.nytimes.com/1999/05/19/sport ... le-ix.html


Great story about the last game (NCAA Tournament):

http://www.sectionb.com/prov.htm


So, it was Title IX?
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Re: Temple to drop 7 sports, including baseball

Postby Bill Marsh » Mon Dec 09, 2013 1:12 pm

TheHall wrote:
Reaction rolls in on Temple cuts (Philly Inquirer)

Temple folks also bent too far backward to stress this had nothing to do with football. Football shouldn't be blamed for this. If there was no football at Temple, money would not magically appear for these other sports. Untrue and unfair to the football players, who are under enough pressure. And please don't suggest Temple should drop down a level. Those schools lose more money. There is TV money coming in thanks to football."

However, to suggest football provides revenue for other sports, as Temple administrators did - football doesn't pay for itself, how can it pay for anything else? (OK, some of the apparel and sponsorship money would go away without football, but how much did other sports really benefit financially from any of that? Not enough, apparently.)

"Football runs the show in athletics, financially,'' Temple president Neil D. Theobald told me in August. He meant nationwide, and that if revenues are to improve - if Temple is ever to stop losing $7 million annually on athletics - the only path to profitability is through football. Whether Temple can ever get there is the highly questionable part. Will the Atlantic Coast Conference get its own television network running and someday decide it wants Philadelphia cable sets involved? Who knows?

http://articles.philly.com/2013-12-08/sports/44946955_1_new-boathouse-temple-baseball-and-softball



I could see many schools in a similar situation going forward....Looking at you guys in Storrs.


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Re: Temple to drop 7 sports, including baseball

Postby ChelseaFriar » Mon Dec 09, 2013 2:02 pm

Bill Marsh wrote:
ChelseaFriar wrote:
Bill Marsh wrote:I wonder what killed Providence baseball back in the '90's in the very year when it was Big East champions?


Answer:

http://www.nytimes.com/1999/05/19/sport ... le-ix.html


Great story about the last game (NCAA Tournament):

http://www.sectionb.com/prov.htm


So, it was Title IX?



Yes, it was Title IX. Though, the president at the time was not very "sports friendly" so perhaps a different solution could have been found.
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Re: Temple to drop 7 sports, including baseball

Postby JOPO » Wed Dec 11, 2013 4:38 pm

Bill Marsh wrote:I wonder what killed Providence baseball back in the '90's in the very year when it was Big East champions?


Title IX, wasn't it?
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Re: Temple to drop 7 sports, including baseball

Postby JOPO » Wed Dec 11, 2013 4:55 pm

IamJack wrote:
ElDonBDon wrote:I think this is a good move. I wish they would drop football. It's such a drain. You will never sell out the Link, not even close. You will never be the SEC. Temple had a decent football coach that had a couple of decent seasons and then he immediately jumps ship.

Reap the gains from specialization that await you in basketball (a la early 90s)


I want no part of TU even if they did drop FB. Lets focus our magic on convincing the Huskies to drop it and join


Just curious but do we really want to pursue a state school? Plus I would always think UConn would have one foot out the door before they even arrived. The Big Ten really should have taken the Huskies.
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Re: Temple to drop 7 sports, including baseball

Postby TheHall » Wed Dec 11, 2013 5:04 pm

JOPO wrote:
IamJack wrote:
ElDonBDon wrote:I think this is a good move. I wish they would drop football. It's such a drain. You will never sell out the Link, not even close. You will never be the SEC. Temple had a decent football coach that had a couple of decent seasons and then he immediately jumps ship.

Reap the gains from specialization that await you in basketball (a la early 90s)


I want no part of TU even if they did drop FB. Lets focus our magic on convincing the Huskies to drop it and join


Just curious but do we really want to pursue a state school? Plus I would always think UConn would have one foot out the door before they even arrived. The Big Ten really should have taken the Huskies.

Every conference except for the B1G & the SEC has those concerns that's why everyone is watching the Maryland suit vs. the ACC. So fear can't be the strategy for a top conference. We wouldn't go after Uconn unless it was from a position of strength if not it's not worth it. As for the "foot out the door" thing, what door...the AAC, there are no doors out there or they would already be there. For the record I'd be good with Memphis in addition or instead.
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