I got one question for Big East basketball fans!

[dmac80]

My take is while certain obvious programs have been more successful than others in the last 10-15 years, no one from the big east has won it all more than once and no one has won since the mid 1980s.....further those who have been successful have mostly been making the dance and or sweet 16, it's not like semi annual final four runs or anything. I hope that this newer non football incarnation sees more movement and jockeying for the top spots year over year.

[handdownmandown]

It'll still be relatively civil, since everyone needs everyone else to be terrific for the sake of the conference. But once that dissipates its gonna be a donnybrook. There's a definite undercurrent of original BE teams/added BE teams/freshly invited BE teams in that order, and if we (CU) pull our weight the first couple years and do what's necessary to establish the conference, that attitude will wind up getting a Return to Sender on it, and I can just see tons of scores being created due to 10 different perspectives.

[MUSeashells&Balloons]

My take is while certain obvious programs have been more successful than others in the last 10-15 years, no one from the big east has won it all more than once and no one has won since the mid 1980s.....further those who have been successful have mostly been making the dance and or sweet 16, it's not like semi annual final four runs or anything. I hope that this newer non football incarnation sees more movement and jockeying for the top spots year over year.

I agree but we also need major programs year after year that people can say oh the Big East is great they have Georgetown or Villanova. That is what makes a conference at least appear like a power conference. Georgetown, Connecticut and Syracuse served this role for the Big East in the past. Duke and North Carolina for the ACC. Kansas for the Big 12. Kentucky for the Sec. Indiana for the B1G. I do think its important we have a team or two or three like that. I think right now Georgetown's probably that team that has that mind share. Maybe Villanova or Marquette for 2 or 3(just as I see it right now).

That being said one of the great things about the big east is it is always closer than other conferences there are a lot more jockeying for spots and in my opinion thats what makes it a great. But I do think having the perception of a premier program is good for the league and its perception of being a power conference.

[MUBoxer]

lmao I literally only said that to ruffle some feathers maybe get an intense thread going I respect everybody's runs of success in this conference hell I could've ended up at two of the other schools so I was just messing guys... except for a certain Friarfan who pisses me off

[xu1990]

And I tried to fire back to the original poster with X all-time sheer dominance of the Friars (2-1). This thread went tangential quickly.

[GumbyDamnit!]

It'll still be relatively civil, since everyone needs everyone else to be terrific for the sake of the conference. But once that dissipates its gonna be a donnybrook. There's a definite undercurrent of original BE teams/added BE teams/freshly invited BE teams in that order, and if we (CU) pull our weight the first couple years and do what's necessary to establish the conference, that attitude will wind up getting a Return to Sender on it, and I can just see tons of scores being created due to 10 different perspectives.

As a fan of a long-time BE school I can tell you from my own perspective that there may be some loyalty built around decades of competition but I do not think there is necessarily a pecking order. In fact I will say that I consider Marq higher up, or more of a true BE team than a Prov & SHU because they have done more for the conference over the past several years. Do the new programs have to earn their strpes a bit? Absolutely, but that is said with respect. I have a feeling that Xavier especially is going to be a consistent top half program. If CU can do the same then they are not sitting at any kids table at the BE Thnaksgiving Feast. In the next 5 years if they are making tourneys and increasing our collective impact on college hoops I will consider them more of a true BE school than a SHU or DePaul if both continue to be basement dwellers. I always thought that SHU, Prov and DePaul needed to get their sh!t together if this league was going to be successful. It looks like that is happening with the former two at least. We need bids and we need to get to FF's. Whicher teams can do that will rise to the top of the pecking order.

[DumpsterFireA10]

As long as people are excited, it's all good.

Good for PC.

[ElDonBDon]

My take is while certain obvious programs have been more successful than others in the last 10-15 years, no one from the big east has won it all more than once and no one has won since the mid 1980s.....further those who have been successful have mostly been making the dance and or sweet 16, it's not like semi annual final four runs or anything. I hope that this newer non football incarnation sees more movement and jockeying for the top spots year over year.

I agree but we also need major programs year after year that people can say oh the Big East is great they have Georgetown or Villanova. That is what makes a conference at least appear like a power conference. Georgetown, Connecticut and Syracuse served this role for the Big East in the past. Duke and North Carolina for the ACC. Kansas for the Big 12. Kentucky for the Sec. Indiana for the B1G. I do think its important we have a team or two or three like that. I think right now Georgetown's probably that team that has that mind share. Maybe Villanova or Marquette for 2 or 3(just as I see it right now).

That being said one of the great things about the big east is it is always closer than other conferences there are a lot more jockeying for spots and in my opinion thats what makes it a great. But I do think having the perception of a premier program is good for the league and its perception of being a power conference.

I agree with all of this. Gtown is a household name and the closest thing to a conference-flagship program; without them, I think we'd hear "mid-major" a lot more

[JOPO]

It'll still be relatively civil, since everyone needs everyone else to be terrific for the sake of the conference. But once that dissipates its gonna be a donnybrook. There's a definite undercurrent of original BE teams/added BE teams/freshly invited BE teams in that order, and if we (CU) pull our weight the first couple years and do what's necessary to establish the conference, that attitude will wind up getting a Return to Sender on it, and I can just see tons of scores being created due to 10 different perspectives.

As a fan of a long-time BE school I can tell you from my own perspective that there may be some loyalty built around decades of competition but I do not think there is necessarily a pecking order. In fact I will say that I consider Marq higher up, or more of a true BE team than a Prov & SHU because they have done more for the conference over the past several years. Do the new programs have to earn their strpes a bit? Absolutely, but that is said with respect. I have a feeling that Xavier especially is going to be a consistent top half program. If CU can do the same then they are not sitting at any kids table at the BE Thnaksgiving Feast. In the next 5 years if they are making tourneys and increasing our collective impact on college hoops I will consider them more of a true BE school than a SHU or DePaul if both continue to be basement dwellers. I always thought that SHU, Prov and DePaul needed to get their sh!t together if this league was going to be successful. It looks like that is happening with the former two at least. We need bids and we need to get to FF's. Whicher teams can do that will rise to the top of the pecking order.

Thankfully, SHU will be returning to their glory days, in large part due to a new administration led by our President, Dr. Esteban, who sees athletics as an investment and our AD, Pat Lyons, for whom failure is not an option. Our past president was absolutely clueless when it came to athletics, a point driven home by his AD hires who were either unmotivated in leading a major D1 school or just totally clueless on what was required. Nice guys to talk to but I thank God they are gone because if they were still at the helm the Pirates would have been totally screwed!

[TheHall]

Ah, the Big East, where every member is created equal, except some are more equal than others.

I'll tell you what, the differences between the board as it is now and as it will be, say, two years from now will be striking. Irritation is already starting to bubble at the seams; just wait until it starts to boil.

Two years? I'd say we get three weeks into the conference schedule this season and it'll happen!

Damn right!